If you want to properly leverage Donut, you need to go for less Events and more Resources, especially for effects that have a comparable variant available. So for instance, take Mr. Li instead of Express Delivery, probably drop the Planned Assault altogether (possibly taking Armitage or Daily Casts instead), etc.
Also, Iâd take Aesop (or a second Vamp) before DLR, as thereâs plenty of anti-synergy with the rest of your list there.
Just finished the Illinois, USA regional a half hour ago. I finished in second playing Peekayâs CI deck and Kate. Lost in the finals to silhouette(sp). The ID card is a masterpiece
Iâm also curious about which version you played, and Iâm very curious about how unique your opponentâs decks look compared to what Iâve gotten used to seeing (Silhouette coupled with Tennin Institute).
And congrats on getting all the way to the finals!
Yes, was making an inside joke there. Iâd been playing CI since peekay leaked his doubletime list from chronos, and it was too late to change corps.
@PeekaySK I was playing scorched imaging with walls of static. I also changed the 3rd priority into a project vitruvius while testing and found it better - however, after getting to event and entering my deck list, I realized that I still had 3 prioity requisitions, one of which got stolen basically every game (usually out of hand) so I was pretty salty about that, especially when I needed 1 priority req to win with my corp game against Kranseâs silhouette deck and it never showed up on time.
But yes, the walls of static were always amazing and I did not miss heimdall 2.0 all day, I think I only rezzed heimdall 2.0 twice and never stuck brain damage with him, money was always an issue for rezzing heimdall before - while I used walls of static to ruin an atman deck in the finals, and tax silhouttes breach - I just never had a spare 11 credits to throw away on an opponents clone chip.
I had more than half of the corp games I won end with me at 0 credits, including playing a biotic labor then restructure to have the exact number of credits to sea source scorch a stirling deck through 2 plascretes.
I saw a lot of CI at the event, my round 1, and round 4 opponents both played Cerebral Hive of Giraffes, and it seemed like there were always people adjacent to me playing hive+celebrity gifts or scorched earth; unfortunately, I think I was the only one in the finals playing a CI deck - I donât have the numbers but it seemed like it was mostly HB Red Coatâs decks and NBN decks in the finals, with an array of other factions sprinkled in.
About the PriReqs: I pretty much always get one stolen, whether Iâm running two or three (Murphyâs Law and so on). Having one and not having one is a huge difference re: winning the old-fasioned way, so Iâm way more comfortable running three. That way, I donât have to dig for the second one in a race against the runner whenever one gets stolen.
Not sure how I feel about (directly or indirectly) causing that, actually - HB has never been my favorite corporation. On the plus side, I now have enough rep on NRDB for a lifetimeâs supply of deck slots
I played in two more tournaments with my list from Helsinki (scorched imaging, no 5/3s).
In the first I lost 2 games out of five: one was going pretty good, then he plays Legwork and hits 3 agendas at once. Oh well. In the second game, he breaks into R&D though four ice, loses all breakers to Ichi in the process, goes down to two credits and two cards while I have SEA Source + 2x Scorch, but hits the 4th agenda. Hail mary run, oh well. Overall 1st place anyway
In the second tournament I lost one game out of four, started with 3x Hedge Fund and a Blue Level, but didnât get any ice, and he picked two agendas from my bare hand and two more from my bare deck, no multi-accesses. Oh well.
Stories, stories. Anyway, the deck is STRONG.
(on a side note, my gamble-less Kate deck keeps working wonders. Out of these two tournaments, 9 games as runner, I only lost once, to Astrotrain.)
Iâm looking for a corp ID that plays a little differently but can still win tournaments. Are CIâs glory days behind it in a meta with Clot, or is there some life in the old girl yet?
Itâs not top tier but I took a Mandatory Upgrade/Media Blitz CI to a GNK on Saturday and went 3-1 and had a blast.
Amazingly there was another CI Mandatory Upgrade/Media Blitz player there who came in 2nd with a 4-0 record for the deck. Both of our wins probably came from people having no idea what to do against the deck though.
Not every deck plays clots, and CI is an identity who can reliably replay a CVS more times than the runner has clone chips.
It did fairly well for me. I did retire it for the time being as it has an unfavorable matchup to Noise and especially DLR decks. Still, itâs a ton of fun to play, and has a better matchup to decks packing clot than you would think.
Genuine question: If your goal is exclusively to win, even if you have no fun and lose all your friends, is there a situation where you shouldnât play CI at any given tournament?
There have been some changes to the meta from all sorts of factors, but I have been playing against CI more than any other deck in the hands of my partner, and whilst weâre both relatively new to NR, weâre both pretty convinced itâs unbeatable in a normal game. All (and Iâm pretty sure thatâs not hyperbole) our losses have come from the Runner going to 5 points in the early game and then getting a lucky access later on, or one of us (usually me) forgetting how MCA Austerity works and putting out a 5/3 Agenda with only 4 Advancement counters on it or something.
We cannot figure out a proper strategy to beat it that doesnât involve a lot of random access. Why isnât everyone playing CI? What am I missing?
Deny their econ. Make them rez ICE. Fairchild 3.0 is almost always the worst scenario (unless itâs Moons, then its Architect). Remember that FC3 is 6 credits and consider how that will effect the corpâs hand size.
Try to exploit their weakest central. They usually canât find and rez all the FC3âs, so poke around and figure out whatâs poorly guarded. CI is typically going to have about 1 in every 5 cards be an agenda, so a random access is actually going to give you decent odds. You only need to score 3 times if you hit a 5/3, so get all the random accesses you can.
Stimhack is always handy for cracking the remote, and barring Punitive variants, CI will rarely be able to punish you for taking brain damage.
Rumor Mill and E. Strike should both be useful in curbing CIâs effectiveness, particularly if theyâre using Stinson/MCA Austerity.
Besides Fairchild 3.0, most of CIâs ICE is pretty lackluster, so if you can answer it with something efficient like Cyber Cypher, Atman (5), D4v1d youâll be in good shape. If youâre on Black Orchestra, consider supplementing it with ICE Carver or Datasucker to save 3 bucks. Itâs usually worth it in the long run.
Me: âHey, a new Stimhack article on CIâ
âWow, this is real in-depth evolution here, starting with ancient history.â
âAre we seriously going to look at every card from every cycle that fit in CI? How long is this thing?â
âWait, looking forward to Honor and Profit? Holy necromancy, how old is this article?!â
Thatâs what I get for finding new articles primarily through their discussion threads and not paying any attention to post dates. SMH