Titan Transnational

Not saying it’s an unfeasible idea, but I don’t think the deck could function without those Beanstalks and Sweeps Week. the econ can already be tight as it is if your deck feeds you garbage

this isn’t something you can really count on being able to do

Shipment from Sansan and Subliminal Messaging are roughly equivalent to Beanstalk Royalties for economy so I don’t see the switch as a problem.

Right, I’m saying you have to assume Anarchs have I’ve Had Worse in hand so it’s rarely worth the risk to shutdown scorch combo when they have a 5 card hand and sketchy against a 4 card hand. Although the combo also opens up triple Scorch which has a solid chance of working.

I can’t agree about Subliminal, Runners run all over you with this deck. Early game you rarely have enough ICE to cover all your servers, and mid to late game they’ve got their breaker suite and your gear check ICE becomes relatively transparent

God do I hate wasting deck slots on subliminal messaging.

Having expercienced my most severe loss yet against @maznaz with Maxx, I can confirm this. It’s all nice and well to have a very taxing piece of Ice in Tollbooth, but you got to be able to rez the darn thing first. Hell, I can’t even rez an Enigma 80% of the time without going to zero creds. And next turn, they Spoon it or something. I’m at my 6th revision for a Titan supermodernism against this archetype and now I’m certain that short of extreme luck, there’s nothing I can throw at it that gives me even a slight edge against it.

I’d love to hear how to consistently beat it, outside of “just play BS or NEH”. Crisium Grid is not an answer.

Umm… we already have a dedicated Mediohxcore (or lack thereof) thread:

:smiley:

I think it may be just a really bad match up for Titan. I played against a Titan deck my friend was running at the local store champs yesterday.

He’s a good player and the deck seemed solid but my Eater/Siphon/Keyhole MaxX easily beat him two times in the tournament and again in a casual match between rounds.

I’ve also never lost to Titan on OCTGN with that MaxX list.

it is a bad match up, hence why i came in here seeking advice some time ago ;d

So I played about 20 league games with Titan, and I got news - Mark Yale sucks. When he is useful he is great, but that happened just in a one game, so he sucks instead.

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What’s your build?

He feeds into the major feature of the deck in my experience - when you are winning, your deck makes you win more, when you are not winning, your deck makes you lose. Hard.

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Exactly. If you are scoring agendas, Mark Yale is awesome.

If you aren’t, it sucks. But if you aren’t scoring agendas, Mark Yale is likely not the problem, something else is going wrong.

I tried something that can switch plans midgame - rush, classic remote play, scorch, FA. So far mixed feelings, but not sure if build type has anything to do with Mark Yale being a lazy bum ;). Turns out the deck lives and dies on Project Atlas, which is not very good.

Transitional Versatility

Titan Transnational: Investing In Your Future (Order and Chaos)

Agenda (11)
1x Firmware Updates (Order and Chaos)
2x Geothermal Fracking (Opening Moves)
2x High-Risk Investment (Order and Chaos)
3x Hostile Takeover (Core Set)
3x Project Atlas (What Lies Ahead)

Asset (6)
1x Executive Boot Camp (All That Remains)
1x GRNDL Refinery (Fear and Loathing)
3x Jackson Howard (Opening Moves) •••
1x Mark Yale (Order and Chaos)

Operation (15)
1x Beanstalk Royalties (Core Set)
1x Biotic Labor (Core Set) ••••
3x Hedge Fund (Core Set)
3x Restructure (Second Thoughts)
2x Scorched Earth (Core Set)
1x SEA Source (Core Set) ••
2x Shipment from Kaguya (Core Set)
2x Trick of Light (Trace Amount) ••••• •

Barrier (6)
3x Fire Wall (Order and Chaos)
3x Ice Wall (Core Set)

Code Gate (5)
2x Lotus Field i[/i] ••
2x Quandary (Double Time)
1x Wormhole (Order and Chaos)

Sentry (6)
2x Archer (Core Set)
2x Errand Boy (The Source)
2x Nebula (Order and Chaos)

17 influence spent (max 17)
20 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
49 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Order and Chaos

Deck built on NetrunnerDB.

I did great with Titan, until I ran into Quetzal. Anarchs can be very annoying. If you don’t get the right ICE fast enough, you’re doomed. I don’t like the anarch matchup

I think you have two many plans in mind, concentrate on one with Plan B.
Scoring one Atlas out of three, with Biotic in deck, is pretty easy. Yesterday I scored one and lost another two - that one Atlas counter won me the game (Hostile for 7 points or Sea Source for flatline). I started with Atlas behind Chimera, leaving both HQ and R&D wide open and I was right - the cookie of free Maker’s Eye and Legwork was too much. :smile:
The only problem I have is with early game money - I’ve put two Succesful Demos for that, but I didn’t test it enough so I don’t know if it’s the right call.
Anyone have tried Grail suite in Titan? 8 inf left for other things looks fine.

Tried Swordsman yet?

Have you? Seems totally not worth it and a waste of influence to me. Eater/Keyhole decks have Femme to break it. Shapers use Mimic. The new Andy drip-econ-with-Overmind deck abuses Fairy; etc.

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I don’t think I’m giving up much by including additional plans. Scoring Atlas is obviously the point, so to have a decent shot at this you need to be able to rush it - hence cheap ETRs. FA pieces are necessary for keeping the atlas train alive. So I would say rush into FA Atlas chain is my plan A.

Decent ICE for classic remote play actually have a good synergy with ToL, since most of them are advanceable, and thus will be included anyway for plan A. Dedicating a single deck slot for GRNDL Refinery to induce runs doesn’t seem like a big cost to pay. Although I think that Reversed Accounts might do the trick better. So I guess that would be plan B.

Including flatline option costs only 3 deck slots and buys you plan C. If I was to cut a plan, I would cut this one. In IHW era going for the kill is often a misplay costing a game anyway. Runner must fear Scorch anyway, unless he is a skilled tournament scout ;).

As you can see I cut those Yale’s to 1, went with one Bootcamp instead - I was so flooded in a couple of games, I figured I could use a 4th Jackson. Bootcamp can also mess with Valencia and search for The Lazy Bum if he is needed once in a blue moon.

The deck is fun to play and I had about 70% win ratio in the league with it, before going on a terrific 0-4 streak…

Yeah, flood can happen when you wait for your FA cards to come and when you spend time advancing ices, rather than scoring agendas in a remote. In rush deck I’m usually scoring agendas as soon as I get them, so flood rarely happens.
Another thing is I believe that Atlastrain is simply inferior than Astrotrain.

While drawing multiple Mark Yale is seldom good, I’ve almost never had trouble with the first one being good.
A very common case is a scored Hostile and then he’s a 1-cost Hedge Fund. Anything beyond that is gravy.

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