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People like the excitement of a cut and seeing a bracket fill out. Swiss is, however, one of the best ways of figuring out the best players in the room on the day.

I think the idea of mixing them is that you get the best bracket you can make. Games are less likely to be lopsided or come down to pure luck, so the severe nature of a double elim is less likely to knock out a contender who didn’t ‘deserve’ to win in the first place.

Several pro sports do something akin to a Swiss/Cut. FWIW, so does MTG. It’s sort of a proven thing.


The main thing I want brought over that uses this argument is how Chess determines who plays White. Could use it to determine who plays Corp. The math for how tournaments work is so difficult and convoluted with a 2-game-match structure, that fixing it to making it 1-game-match structure has the potential of fixing other issues, such as IDs. If anything, the worst effect from this is that you’re playing with one person less, so you get less social aspects of the tournament.


The idea of moving from 4-5 round double sided tournaments to 5-7 forty-five minute one sided rounds, then a cut sounds very appealing to me from a competitive standpoint. You get slightly fewer actual games, but those games will be better. For such a complex game, only having essentially half an hour to play one is… Incredible. I never feel like 30 minutes is a proper game of Netrunner.

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Have a look here:

i tried it for 2 tournaments.

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And what was the result?

It was in:

First I had issues with the software in both tournaments. Meaning in the first one I used the wrong software and in the second I swtiched to doing it manually, my feeling was adding players later for round 2 might have broken it.
In general there are some things to considder:

  • You play more players so it’s good for introducing new players into your meta
  • You are faster in the area you belong to (first or last table, or whatever table based on your deck & skill) so less painful games.
  • But you play less total games. While when you play 5 rounds of swiss you play 10 games of ANR in this format you will play 7 - 8 games
    But I enjoyed it as TO, but don’t know what other think about it.

This may not be universally true. I personally enjoy the back-and-forth with sharing a pair of games with one opponent. When meeting new people I find it spending more time one on one with someone cool is more relaxing and engaging than spending less time per person with a slightly larger number cool people.

Not arguing for/against a tournament structure. Just wanted the introvert side to be heard from.

Is the design article with Greg still coming?

Yep, due to drop on Monday (29th April).

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Any ETA for the next MWL update?

I believe this evening UK time, possibly around 8pm, @RealityCheque can confirm 100% I expect.

That’s correct - 8pm GMT is our standard time for announcements.

I learned soemthing too! :slight_smile:

So 8 PM GMT = 9 PM BST = 10 PM CEST?

They want to use it next weekend: https://alwaysberunning.net/tournaments/2059/nisei-standard-day-a

I imagine @RealityCheque meant 8pm BST, as the UK is currently on BST, not GMT/UTC.

BST operates from the last Sunday in March until the last Sunday in October:

8pm BST = 7pm GMT = 7pm UTC = 9pm CEST I believe.

This site is pretty useful:


Not sure if I open the box of Pandora…
shouldn’t we get news about the next set soon? Based on the approach to provide 4x packs a year that would be in June as the lädt one was in March

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A: We’ll announce when we’re ready. I know that’s vague, but it’s hard to announce anything we don’t even have full details on yet. :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyway, to give you some (but not all the) information: We’re testing right now, art is being commissioned, and the set likely won’t make Q3.


I’m very much looking forward to hopefully attending the World Championships this year, and surely I am not the only one, but I am a bit confused as to the current situation and eager for more info, and I am definitely not the only one.

Given that transparency and honesty are at the core of the Nisei mission, I personally think it would be very fruitful to provide some sort of info on what’s going on with the event, instead of the rumors around possible locations and time of the event I see from time to time. We all know that getting a concrete date and city out ASAP helps tremendously for people flying in, and I am well aware that this info is not available at the current time, but I would love to hear where you actually are in the process (has anything been decided upon yet? Are you actively looking at any specific venues? Is there a placeholder date? Can we expect Worlds to happen in 2019 or is is early 2020 more likely? Is there anything community members can do to help out?). You probably have a lot of stuff going on with GenCon/US Champs coming up too, but at least for me, any sort of Worlds info would be appreciated.


We are actively looking at venues and scheduling. We have nothing else to announce at this time.

Just as a reminder, FFG had a track record of only 3-4 months lead time. We’re still well within that period for an October or November Worlds.