Cards that don't work in-faction

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Somewhere out there in the multiverse is a much better world where Traffic Accident requires only one tag and costs two influence.

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I'm so sorry
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It says something that it’s easier to bring meat damage to NBN than it is to bring tags to Weyland.

And why are NBN and Weyland the only factions with tag punishment? Surely other Corps could do bad things too if they knew the Runner’s location.

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All this talk about Cache and no one’s mentioned the other seemingly-useful and thematically appropriate criminal card, Career Fair

It would be great if there were more 3+ cost resources, but so many cost 0-2, and The Supplier already works so well with that, is reusable, and can discount hardware as well

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Color pie is thematic first, synergy a distant second. Career Fair is crim because it’s social engineering (you’re not applying for a job, you’re looking for contacts to hire/scam).

Traffic Jam is the egrerious example of a card that is thematically in the right faction but mechanically all wrong. I’d add The Twins to this list - the card is Weyland, but all the support mechanics (searching for ice, recursion) are in HB. As a result, there are four times as many HB decks as Weyland decks with the Twins on nrdb.

To go off on a career fair tangent - I’d like to see more “social hacking” cards for Crim. Stuff like Career Fair (which is about conning people into helping them) or Inside Job, but also something to represent them calling Customer Service and getting passwords reset. A classic that needs to be in netrunner! Maybe a resource that let’s you break code gates?

Reset Passwords
Resource - 4 creds
Play only if you made a succesful run on HQ this turn. Add 4 power counters to Reset Passwords when it is installed.
Hosted power counter: Break code gate subroutine.

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Quality Time. It is designed for out of faction.

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It’s funny or sad that the only card called Social Engineering is in Shaper.

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Come to Anarch, where we have stored all the 3+ cost resources you want to play :wink:

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damn you, Anarch! i like playing literally everything else (well, except APEX), but maybe i need to get over it and find a way to get some Anarch to click with (APEX can wait)

that was in fact the point of my post: i even said it was thematically appropriate. like the thread title suggests, it’s simply a card that works much better out of faction (namely, Anarch), and for anyone actually considering the card in Criminal, there is a better option already

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I do want to point out that I intended ‘Cards that don’t work in-faction’ to mean gameplay-wise, not theme-wise.

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lol, but that’s what i was saying!

a thematically appropriate card, Career Fair, isn’t really usable in Criminal gameplay-wise because there aren’t many 3+ cost resources, and in addition to that, there’s a much better way, in-faction, of getting a discount on resources (ie: The Supplier, also thematically appropriate)

i didn’t realise my post was going to cause so much controversy lol

alright, i’m not going to make any posts anymore about this, so i’m just going to edit this one.

in Criminal? there are only 3 3+ cost resources in Criminal, all of them are unique, and one of them is The Supplier. Mr. Li doesn’t see much play anymore, and the only serious using Bagbiter is out of Shaper

compared with Anarch’s 9 resources that cost 3 or more, 4 are unique, and 5 aren’t. granted, Hard at Work and Sacrificial Clone don’t see much play, Adjusted Chronotype, DDoS, Liberated Account, and Wyldside certainly do

of course, neutral has a few more (some of them are still unique, and the lists includes the shards, which are one-per-deck)
and while these are of course available to everyone, other than Daily Casts, Utopia Shard, and Earthrise Hotel, you won’t find many others in Criminal decks, so that’s only a few potential targets.

there are simply a lot more targets in Anarch than Criminal, so any Criminal using Career Fair will more often draw it as a dead card. i’ve tried it in Shaper (who has more options), and it’s a dead card quite often over there too.

show me a Criminal deck seriously running 2-3x Career Fair, and i’ll show you a deck that would seriously benefit from running The Supplier instead or simply taking it out altogether

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There are plenty of cards like that though.
[/quote]so many people have made this same sentiment. did i unintentionally hijack a thread that has nothing to do with discussing cards that:

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are by the vast majority used out-of-faction
[/quote]?

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I think most people prefer Career Fair over The Supplier. Criminals seem to be the faction most geared toward a connections-heavy resource deck, so I think it fits in mechanically well too. The card is better in Anarch since they have so many good 3-cost resources, but I don’t think it’s bad in Criminal.

There are plenty of cards like that though. Account Siphon is arguably worst in Criminal. Shaper can tutor for breakers to apply early Siphon pressure and they have Levy to keep the recursion up. CT Siphon decks are way more consistent than Silhouette ones. Anarch is better at going tag-me than Criminal, and they have good AI breakers so they can get into HQ early too.

Femme feels better out of Shaper and Anarch since they each have ways to cheat it into play (Test Run, London Library, Retrieval Run). Anarch also has Datasucker which makes the high cost of boosting less of an issue, and Shaper has Scavenge which can reposition it.

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Enhanced Login Protocol sees much more play in Jinteki than HB.

And Biotic is probably splashed more than it is played in faction these days I expect.

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Good effort. :smiley:
I think ELP works fine in HB, especially if they’re running Bioroids and trying to tax out your clicks…
Biotic also still works just fine in HB. It’s really only splashed by NBN. :confused:

Not trying to move goalposts on you, just saying that while ELP may show up more in Jinteki, it’s at least a viable decision to run it in its home faction of HB, compared to if you see Cache hit the table from Criminal, you just go ‘wtf?’

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Does anyone actually like Midseasons in NBN now that 24/7 is available? Seems like it works the best in Blue Sun which is the most likely ID to get tons more credits than the runner.

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I still run Midseason in my Haarp kill; I often have cash from profiteering so I typically land a solid tagstorm and make QPM points for me whenever I access. Not to mention I can throw out more scorches to get through plascretes.

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Let’s see.

Edge of World

There’s not a chance in hell of the stars aligning to use this card in any Jinteki ID. Not enough credits, ice, or “not losing” before it’s a valid threat.

But if you put it into NBN never advance or something… Still better than jinteki

Matrix Analyzer
What are you going to advance with this card in NBN?
Now Jinteki, this is fun, in weyland this is bad, but still better than NBN

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Analog Dreamers (program that after a successful run on R&D allows you to add one unadvanced, non-ICE card to R&D instead of accessing)

…ok, it’s terrible anywhere but it becomes more playable if you have hacktivist meeting out.

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Any non ETF HB and non Kate Shaper ID

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Yes, I run Midseasons in Haarp to turn on Psycho-Beale. I run a Profiteering deck, so I pretty much always have lots of cash. Double-Plascrete is useless against an 11-advanced Beale.

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