[Updated] I for one welcome our new Whizzard Overlord

Well, it comes as no surprise, but reg-ass Whizzard got better with Underway.

For influence, I think I may try full on 3 SMC/ 3 Clone Chip with a singleton Faust.

Street Peddler allows for so much more cheap speed. Finding the right mix of Peddler’s, Earthrises, IHW, and Injects is tricky though.

Two of each! Same number of cards as 3xIHW + 3xEH + 2xInject, which has proven pretty effective.

Does the new FAQ mean that Whizzard can only trash installed cards? Has that been clarified and I missed it somewhere?

pg. 4 of the FAQ at https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/f5/2e/f52e015b-dd10-4290-9fba-9b9d0303e0cc/adn_faq_21.pdf

Other
Installed Cards
Unless otherwise noted, all card abilities that do not specify the state of a card can only affect installed cards.

No

I am under the impression the ‘trash’ mechanic is not a card ability but a different mechanic altogether. Trashing cards is an interaction with access, credits, and trashcan icons. Card abilities that deal with trashing have a pass due to the mechanic already being established.

Ultimately it was simply a clarification for the Runner trashing programs bit on Burke Bugs or Q-coherence chip. Someone new reading the cards would think that this applied if they were also trashed from the grip.

Burke Bugs OP.

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Here’s the Twitter ruling:

It took me a while to parse that, but the gist is that Whizzard is unaffected by the FAQ, I think. That’s good.

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yea the snippet didn’t help, I was confused too.

Yeah, it was just the direct answer from Lukas on the question. You have to click through and see the conversation to get the context. The “it” in his response is card ability of Whizzard/Scrubber. The card ability affects credits in these cases not cards (therefore the state of the card you use those credits on don’t matter).

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THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

THE UNBELIEVERS CAN NO LONGER DENY IT.

WHIZZARD>KATE. ALWAYS WAS ALWAYS WILL BE

ALL BOW DOWN BEFORE OUR NEW MIGHTY OVERLORD!

#beliebe

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If whizzard = the one true tier 1 netrunner deck TM
Then
What hoses whiz AND isn’t CI.
?

Grail RP with Museums for recursion of ice?

I don’t think RP can sustain econ vs Whizzard unless they go down operation route - in which case you Palana is just better?

I was thinking that operation based glacier either out of yellow (MN), red (palana) or purple is best, but I haven’t tested any of them enough to come to a firm conclusion.

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Anything that doesn’t rely on assets and ICE is my first guess.

I run a tagstorm Sol deck (link here for the curious) that does both FA and psychobeale (with a couple information overloads thrown in to lock down late game).

I think getting away from the glacier mindset is key for dealing with a deck that’s main plan is to strip servers bare. Saleem’s Hospitality will make killing plascreteless anarchs easier so I expect kill to make a bit of a resurgence.

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Palana may be the answer then, the most important thing is the ICE suite though. Rp forces the runner to either run any of the central servers (so your crick on the archives, and any grail/swordsman on the central servers (Ichi on RnD ifenough inf) will tax faust as hell) and then you try to make the remote decent with Lotus field and Caprice.

And Celebrity Gift + Hedge fund are already in RP. Only Restructure and the Palana ability are the difference.

The only prob is Ice destruction (cutlery) but maybe Museum can accommodate this.

I proposed Grail because every ice can give net damage with the Grail suite.

Palana is really good but then Whizz has either to press RnD or the remote. You cannot have Caprice on both.

I don’t understand how Museum is supposed to survive against Whizzard (it’s tough to defend out of IG, let alone RP), and I don’t understand the appeal of Grail versus AI breakers and ice destruction combined (one alone was always rough on them).

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the problem here is film critic / emp strike which is commonly included.

Huh, for me I have not seen much film critic in my meta; did more people start running that after bio ethics got big?

Also, what are people cutting for film critic and employee strike?

I don’t know about “hoses”, but spags/Calimsha-style NEH Fastro with some anti-Anarch tech tweaks did very well for me against Whizz during SC season.

The key things were more ETR for early-game gear-checks and to stop free 'sucker farming (Enigma > Quandary for this, because of Parasite), Little Engine as MVP, and to not give up on your assets just because it’s Whizz. Definitely needs two Biotics.

The problem I find with fastro, is that its simply a high variance deck that works on the principle of a coin flip on who scores the astros first.

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