Yeah, it’s a cool list. I guess he hopes he never runs into Blue Sun, because yeesh.
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Not online at all, AFAIK. I quizzed him, a lot, and he noted PW was in “v1.2”.
This is v3.0 for him. Fast. Meant to beat NEH. For a Clot-less deck, I was impressed. Main enemy is NAPD, hence 2 FC.
I lost to it with an agenda flood. I had the moral victory of him hitting CVS, wiping his Cache.
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Right. It was a good call for an Invitational finals, 'cause who would run BS there??!?
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I wish no one played it. I got slain by a Janus BS murder build in round 1.
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Right. It was a good call for an Invitational finals, 'cause who would run BS there??!?[/quote]
Yeah, I like his list, it was a great meta call, but it’s definitely not very robust. If there were any kind of non rp glacier in the mix this list might have trouble, I think?
Tweaks and updates.
I keep changing things, I know, but that’s how it goes. Small tweaks here and there lead me to add in the second Scrubber and re-add the Mimic. I am in love with double Scrubber. Chameleon was fine but tended to be too slow. The goal is speed. Took out the Levy: I never really played it. Win before you need to Levy, I suggest, or just go back up to 47 cards. I tried out Escher, and it was pretty good, especially when you can move all Code Gates to RND and just coast through with CyCy. Hard to play it, but it definitely could have a spot in here. 3 Interfaces have been good in the past and I prefer 3. Between the last version and this one I dropped one Film Critic and then went back to 2. Double Film Critic is the way to go. Order can probably be dropped from the deck. I’ve played it in longer matches, but sometimes I just don’t. 1 Symmetrical is enough. Legwork is still doing it for me. 1 Parasite is enough (except in the NEXT ice matchup. All those ice can just die.) Down to 46 cards. Could potentially cut a Quality Time and get to 45. That’s not a terrible idea, but seeing QT early is such a boon.
Nasir: Cyber Ex-boyfriend
Event (8)
3 Diesel
1 Legwork••
3 Quality Time
1 The Maker’s Eye
Hardware (9)
2 Astrolabe
3 Clone Chip
1 Plascrete Carapace
3 R&D Interface
Program (13)
1 Atman
1 Cyber-Cypher
1 D4v1d••••
2 Datasucker••
1 Faust••
1 Inti
1 Mimic•
1 Parasite••
3 Self-modifying Code
1 Sharpshooter
Resource (16)
3 Armitage Codebusting
2 Film Critic
3 Ghost Runner
1 Order of Sol
3 Personal Workshop
1 Same Old Thing
2 Scrubber••
1 Symmetrical Visage
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100% agree on the Scrubber and Critic calls. In this meta, Scrubber is amazing and will flat out win you games. Critic is just so good for Nasir, and against the top decks that it’s hard not seeing it.
As for what to cut, would you consider dropping an Armitage? I disagree about Sol, it does so much work. But maybe your list doesn’t take advantage of it enough.
Here’s one I threw together and it turned out better than I thought. All in on Drug Dealer, Faust, Scrubber. Three Scrubber is so good! Order of Sol helps quite a bit (lots of 1 cost stuff in here) but I’m bummed about the 2 Drug Dealer interaction (first DD drops you to 0, then Sol fires, then second DD takes that one). Getting bunches of cards from multiple Drug Dealers is so good though. May need to try to shove more expensive PW things in here (Toolbox?) to be spending that Order of Sol tick at 1.1 (before “start of turn” trigger).
Seems to do amazingly well for no money. Installing stuff on the fly with DaVinci’s can be a good surprise. I was able to nab a Director Haas for the win last night when the Corp thought I wouldn’t be able to have enough money to trash her, but used DaVinci to install Scrubber before the successful run/access.
nasir drugs
Nasir Meidan: Cyber Explorer (Upstalk)
Event (4)
- 3x Diesel (Core Set)
- 1x Levy AR Lab Access (Creation and Control)
Hardware (10)
- 1x Akamatsu Mem Chip (Core Set)
- 1x Astrolabe (Up and Over)
- 3x Clone Chip (Creation and Control)
- 2x Plascrete Carapace (What Lies Ahead)
- 3x R&D Interface (Future Proof)
Resource (18)
- 3x Drug Dealer (Old Hollywood) •••
- 1x Film Critic (Old Hollywood)
- 3x Ghost Runner (The Spaces Between)
- 2x Kati Jones (Humanity’s Shadow)
- 2x Order of Sol (First Contact)
- 3x Personal Workshop (Cyber Exodus)
- 1x Same Old Thing (Creation and Control)
- 3x Scrubber (A Study in Static) •••
Icebreaker (4)
- 1x Cerberus “Lady” H1 (All That Remains)
- 1x Faust (The Underway) ••
- 1x Mimic (Core Set) •
- 1x Refractor (First Contact)
Program (10)
- 1x Clot (The Valley) ••
- 2x Datasucker (Core Set) ••
- 3x DaVinci (The Universe of Tomorrow)
- 1x Parasite (Core Set) ••
- 3x Self-modifying Code (Creation and Control)
15 influence spent (max 15)
46 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Universe of Tomorrow
Deck built on NetrunnerDB.
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This list is hot. been playing with the previous version you posted, and I actually made a couple of these changes already (parasite into mimic and scrubber, specifically). This is definitely the best Nasir deck I’ve ever played with the possible exception of the up-and-coming multithreader Solidarity (which I have only tried very sparingly due to lack of pre-release cards)
If you wanted to drop to 46 for some reason (there’s plenty of draw, so it’s not super necessary) I think armitage #3 is the way to go. Order of Sol is less important in this list than classic solidarity but it does churn out those RnD interfaces like, super quick. really good for putting a clock on the corp if they’re trying to stabilize mid-game.
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I like it when I see it, but I wouldn’t cut Armitage. I think one Sol is just fine, and I find it in about 60% of games early enough anyway. But yeah, 2 Critic is awesome. I nearly got one of them snatch’d n’ grabb’d, but had the backup anyway. 
Good luck ever playing that card with 3x Drug Dealer 
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I wonder if the lists that go all-in on Drug Dealer want Net Celebrity. Just a very flexible credit that they can’t take.
Presumably it’ll have to be Levy second click after you unload Kati. Looks like a really interesting list for sure.
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How’re you liking DaVinci? I’ve yet to try it!
By Jackson that 3xDD deck goes fast. Hard to keep Clot credits around, though. I’d probably replace the Sols with Armitage given the nonbo with DD.
So I feel like passing this along to my stimhack homies. Let me know if this could be better or way better.
Nasir Meidan Cyber Explorer
15 influence spent (max 15) •••••••••••••••
46 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Data and Destiny
Event Event (13)
3x Diesel
3x Modded
2x Stimhack ••
3x Sure Gamble
2x The Maker’s Eye
Hardware (6)
3x Clone Chip
3x R&D Interface
Resource (11)
2x Film Critic
3x Personal Workshop
2x Same Old Thing
3x Street Peddler •••
1x The Source ••
Icebreaker (8)
2x Atman
2x Cerberus “Lady” H1
1x Deus X
1x Femme Fatale •
2x Study Guide
Program (8)
1x Clot ••
3x Multithreader •••
1x Parasite ••
3x Self-modifying Code
Does this not hurt for MU? Seems hard to fit in all those programs.
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Hello. This is Peety. Glad to see an indepth thread about Nasir! Feel free to PM me anytime!
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You can cut this and add 2x astrolabe and +1 armitage.
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Welcome to the thread! always excited to have more people playing the best runner 
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Let me know if this could be better or way better.
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- as others have mentioned , sure gamble is borderline dead in Nasir, and you desperately need memory - astrolabe should cover you, though I think @IirionClaus is even slotting a singleton cybersolutions as well for super late game.
- Maker’s eye is probably overkill, as is 3x modded, though I could be wrong there, as 3x multithreader does give you quite a few more quality targets.
- Take out the source. It is a garbage card (maybe not in adam, but definitely for all other runners). If you are that terribly worried about FA another clot would serve you better (though I think there are better ways to spend 2 influence).
- same old things can probably go - they’re so-so for stimhacking but otherwise are dead weight.
- swap out at least one of the study guides (both if it were me, but I get that it’s a fun card) for a cycy or zu. you really need an early answer to enigma/quandary before the multithreader/study guide train gets rolling midgame.
- for cards to add in, I’d be looking at Ghost runner (solid gold in Nasir, almost a must-slot), Order of Sol (does excellent work with PW since Nasir will often be broke; you can trigger it on both your turn and the corps turn so it can be quite powerful for rig building), Armitage Codebusting (a normally so-so econ card that is just what Dr. Nasir ordered when he’s broke and needs just a couple extra credits to be threatening again).
- for splashes when you cut the source (and anything else) the obvious things like datasucker, mimic, a second parasite, are probably your best bets. if you can free up 4 influence d4v1d is ridiculously powerful out of Nasir. Lastly, Scrubber is a great splash for Nasir, who has a real tough time trashing things.
While you’re here, you should definitely check out the most recent “Solidarity” list upthread; El-ad (@IirionClaus, the author of the original article for this thread, btw) is an excellent authority on this type of “toolbox” nasir deck and his current build is quite powerful, if somewhat difficult to pilot perfectly. @CJFM’s Faust list with parasite spam is also very potent, much more approachable for newer Nasir players, and tournament legal right now (unlike the multithreader lists).
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