Andy Pawnshop

moistloaf · 2015-02-08 08:04:19 UTC

Sorry to start another Decklist thread, but I cooked this one up, played a few games, and got excited. Maybe I’ll regret this in the morning; wouldn’t be the first time =)

###[Andy Garage Sale][1] (45 cards)

[Andromeda: Dispossessed Ristie][2]

Event (13)

3 [Dirty Laundry][3]
2 [Emergency Shutdown][4]
2 [Legwork][5]
3 [Special Order][6]
3 [Sure Gamble][7]

Hardware (6)

3 [Desperado][8]
3 [Silencer][9]

Resource (20)

3 [Aesop’s Pawnshop][10] ••••• •
3 [Bank Job][11]
2 [Earthrise Hotel][12]
3 [John Masanori][13]
3 [Kati Jones][14]
3 [Security Testing][15]
3 [Zona Sul Shipping][16]

Icebreaker (5)

1 [Cerberus “Rex” H2][17]
1 [Corroder][18] ••
1 [Gordian Blade][19] •••
1 [Mimic][20] •
1 [Switchblade][21]

Program (1)

1 [Medium][22] •••

I originally set out to make an Kate Garage Sale deck (my cute name for Pawnshop). I thought, “Hey! Bank Job works great with Pawnshop!” I had heard on some podcasts and seen online how some people were foregoing PPVP in favor of a Pawnshop + Bank Job + Cache economy. After making a list without Grimoire, Cache struck me as inefficient. I then considered that both Bank Job and Aesop’s are 3 influence. I thought about all the cards Criminals already like to run that would be good Aesop’s food: Bank Job, SecTesting, Masanori… then I remembered a new card that no one plays: Zona Sul Shipping. I started brewing and came up with this. I played 2 games versus RP and went 1-1. The RP player was quite solid (virus on OCTGN), and seemed to be playing a Worlds list. Both games I kept him off economy; first game I Medium’d for 3 and hit double TFP; won both psi games to win. Second game, I got locked out late game due to Lotus Fields and only one Rex. For this reason, I took out Yog and 2 Suckers for Gordian and 2 Earthrise. I knew an issue with the original list was card draw.

I realize now I am not playing Daily Casts. It’s an easy swap for Zona Sul, but I am going to keep experimenting with Zona. A turn one Zona takes longer to pay off than Casts, but it seems very strong. I am not running Siphon due to Zona. A cool thing you can do is drop Masanori early, use him as much as possible, then Pawn him so he doens’t kill your Zonas. SecTesting is never dead here; worst case scenario you install for zero and sell for 3, which by my reckoning is a MOpus/TriMaf. Dirty Laundry is another possible swap for Daily, but I think it synergizes too well with Desperado and allows for less of a tempo loss when trashing Assets.

**Just realized I no longer need Rex with Gordian. That should most certainly be a Femme.

I intend to test this list some more; it’s very fun and interactive to pilot, and takes a slightly different approach to economy than some Criminal builds.

endgame · 2015-02-08 08:06:44 UTC

I would at least run 3x Hostage, 1x Aesop 1x Procon.

moistloaf · 2015-02-08 08:07:42 UTC

That would free up an influence for a Hades Shard, but take 2 more deck slots. Definitely worth testing. Another possible include is Decoy, which can be Pawned in match-ups you’re not worried about Scorched. Probably better to just make room for Plascrete, though.

The Shutdowns are another flex slot. They are probably the closest thing to being cut. They might be better as Express Delivery or maybe just more economy. They’re likely only good here in the early game, but this deck doesn’t have a strong early game like AndySucker.

MasterAir · 2015-02-08 08:15:46 UTC

I can’t help but notice you’re not playing Cache. I think if you’re running Pawnshop it’s a click for 5 credits (next turn). I guess you might have MU issues, so they become a dead draw later.

I don’t get Rex in a deck that’s running Gordian Blade, even if you get the install cost back, it’s a pretty long winded way to maybe gain a couple of creds.

I’m not sure if it will work, but -2 aesops, -1 Kati/Johnny M, +2 hostage, +1 Medium would be something I’d consider. I think Aesop’s is efficient enough that using a hostage for him is worth it. Early Medium really upsets NEH, Early Medium upsets a lot of folk.

You’d also have 1 inf to spare for Feedback Filter if the PE matchup is making you sad.

Zona Sul Shipping would be mediocre at best, even without the trash if you’re tagged clause. Put it back in the binder

moistloaf · 2015-02-08 08:17:48 UTC

yeah I had a clause at the end where I realized I still had Rex in there =)

good point about Cache, I need to consider that for sure. for those averse to Zona, Cache is another easy swap. FF should definitely go in. I’m not giving up on Zona just yet!!

endgame · 2015-02-08 22:57:57 UTC

Depending on MU, you might want Crescentus over Shutdown. I’d be careful with this though: If you’re proconning, a 1-cost thing is net 3 creds for 2 clicks over 2 turns. Not strong enough, not fast enough. You’ll want a way to get cheaper installs for the things you plan on selling. Consider Cyberfeeder, Sahasrara, The Supplier.

moistloaf · 2015-02-09 00:56:28 UTC

I’m not sure I follow with the ProCon statement. ProCon is always more efficient than default drawing, which I found myself doing quite often in my 2 games.

endgame · 2015-02-09 01:31:31 UTC

I count click to draw because when you have ProCo out it is still a decent rule of thumb:
Click to draw, +1 cred
Click to install, -1 cred
Sell next turn, net +3 cred over 2 clicks and 2 turns.

gumOnShoe · 2015-02-09 01:36:54 UTC

Aesops, but no cache?

chrsjxn · 2015-02-09 01:50:00 UTC

What are you planning on selling? Aesop’s works for Noise because you have a lot of cards that have limited uses that you can cash in on (Cache in on, even), and freeing up MU to install new, more useful viruses is a good thing.

moistloaf · 2015-02-09 03:07:56 UTC

Here’s the current list, I think I’m about to stream some games with it.

###[Andy Pawnshop][1] (45 cards)

[Andromeda: Dispossessed Ristie][2]

Event (14)

3 [Dirty Laundry][3]
1 [Emergency Shutdown][4]
2 [Hostage][5]
2 [Legwork][6]
3 [Special Order][7]
3 [Sure Gamble][8]

Hardware (7)

3 [Desperado][9]
1 [Feedback Filter][10] •
3 [Silencer][11]

Resource (15)

2 [Aesop’s Pawnshop][12] ••••
3 [Bank Job][13]
2 [Earthrise Hotel][14]
3 [John Masanori][15]
2 [Kati Jones][16]
3 [Security Testing][17]

Icebreaker (5)

1 [Corroder][18] ••
1 [Femme Fatale][19]
1 [Gordian Blade][20] •••
1 [Mimic][21] •
1 [Switchblade][22]

Program (4)

3 [Cache][23]
1 [Medium][24] •••

Daily Casts nets 1 more than Cache but takes much longer. I really don’t want to run Hostage at all, but I cut an Aesop’s to make room for Feedback Filter which certainly makes the PE match-up a breeze.

Most of the stuff I am using doesn’t get Pawned immediately. It’s a bit different than Noise Shop. I just noticed a lot of cards that Criminals play that were potentially good Aesop’s targets, namely SecTest (once it becomes dead or against remoteless play), Daily Casts (granted, only gets you 1 extra credit), Masanori (when he becomes a liability), Bank Job (Bank for 7 and then Pawn for 3 instead of Bank for 8, or just a turn delayed MOpus when against remoteless), Earthrise (not necessarily a Criminal card but) becomes 1 click and a credit for 4 cards. Noise definitely utilizes Pawnshop better, but I thought I might try it out here.

Note: Still don’t have ProCo in here, I could change Gordian to Zu to fit it in, Zu still very effective against nearly every relevant Code Gate; Gordian only saves you 1 on Tollbooth and Lotus, anyway.