E. Kim Appreciation Thread

Gang sign was more for Kim’s ability than for agendas, i used to have a blast with sneakdoor beta in my kim lists for sniping scorch. But yeah SMC maybe a better shout. To be honest im liking this list less and less looking at it, although i think the breaker suite is good considering common ice suites at the minute, and id argue that (at least) 1x RNDi and 1xHQi is correct for kim. So those bits can stay.

I’m into 3x QG’s, ill hit a better player and get smashed for that i know, but having an overflow of economy has always been the right choice for decks i make.

Actually, i really did like sneakdoor in Kim. The problem was always MU, but now we have faust, and are using interfaces, so rigs can be smaller.

Here’s another draft.

I don’t know what the hell to call this

Edward Kim: Humanity’s Hammer (Order and Chaos)

Event (14)

Hardware (4)

Resource (15)

Icebreaker (6)

Program (6)

15 influence spent (max 15)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Underway

Deck built on NetrunnerDB.

Because of certain decks I’ll not mention here, I posit that Ed Kim is not an unreasonable choice. This is the Kim I would play.

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Kim excels when the corp is relying on a few ops to do something specific - low risk econ, kill combo, etc.

Dorm computer makes me smile, I think I know what you’re talking about.

3 inject and 2 i’ve had worse fo sho (my opinion).

We had a tournament here in Portland for those who weren’t able to go to World’s, which we decided to call Portland World’s, and for some damn reason I brought an Edward Kim deck and won the thing. It’s probably terrible, but it did fine by me.

West Side Kimmy

Edward Kim: Humanity’s Hammer (Order and Chaos)

Event (10)

Hardware (4)

Resource (15)

Icebreaker (6)

Program (10)

15 influence spent (max 15)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Underway

Since one of the only times trashing operations matters is when they’re out of HQ, I decided to go with the “access HQ as much as possible” route with the Gangsigns and the HQIs. I wish there was a Sneakdoor in there, but it’s just too much influence, and the Levy is really needed in some matchups. I wish I had another Medium as well, since another time trashing operations is good is on medium digs since you get to see more cards on your way through again, so I’ll have to try and find room for another. The single Deja Vu is in there mostly as a way to get Levy back if I lose it somehow; it could easily be a Same Old Thing, but there’s no other good targets for SoT, and Deja can get me a couple viruses back, which can be good because for some reason I’m not running the best runner card in the game, Clone Chip.

The deck’s a little slow vs NEH still, but I wasn’t really bringing a deck to win, it kinda just happened. Vs everything else, it actually did just fine, which surprised me a little. Anyhow, thought I’d throw the list on here.

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I’ve always had a weird time trying to use Faust. Keep feeling like I’m trashing stuff I need.

Took Edward Kim to worlds and got 54th with him. Used Desperado and Security Testing for countering NEH then faced a lot of glacier. Was good fun though and l’ll have my list up later on if people are interested in seeing it.

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Well done, thanks for representing the Ann Arbor meta well.

This has been my post-MWL Kim, courtesy of the @TheBigBoy’s awesome article on his site.

http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/nugi2abr4Cq7EgkEB/

EDDIE SMASH; MWL Legal (45 cards)

Edward Kim: Humanity’s Hammer

Event (14)
3 Career Fair
2 Forked
3 I’ve Had Worse
1 Knifed
1 Levy AR Lab Access
1 Spooned
3 Sure Gamble

Hardware (4)
2 Clone Chip
2 Turntable

Resource (12)
2 Adjusted Chronotype
3 Daily Casts
3 Liberated Account
1 Same Old Thing
3 Wyldside

Icebreaker (3)
1 Corroder
2 Faust
1 Mimic

Program (12)
2 D4v1d
2 Datasucker
2 Imp
2 Medium
3 Parasite

I’ve been having good success with this deck, and Kim will trash at least a few operations every game. The only issue this deck has is recovering from 0 credits, which can be rectified with a Queen’s Gambit if you have trouble with it. I kinda wish I had a few more SOT to recur the Cutlery before using the Levy. I haven’t fired the Levy yet in about 8 games (mostly online SHL games), although I lost one game against NEXT Foodcoats because I was quick to fire the single SOT for a simple Sure Gamble after discarding the Levy. I am convinced I was a favorite to win had I kept that Levy on standby.

I’ve found Knifed the least useful overall of the cutlery cards, but I haven’t seen much Weyland. Forked has been used in most of my games, and I see Assassin in most lists that want some kind of big ICE. Spooned has gotten work done as well.

The link will have -1 Corroder +1 David, a slight tech change I’m going to experiment with. I find myself never using the Corroder except for Faust food in most games, and sometimes find myself wishing I had another David sooner.

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After I test my L4J list in Eddie, I want to try a Faust list. I’ll probably start here. How do you feel about Ice Carver? Granted, it can cause problems with D4v1d if installed without thinking, but it seems like Faust would like Ice Carver. As much Anarch as I play, I have yet to ever play with Faust. Maybe I should change that.

I’m not a huge fan of Ice Carver outside of a L4J style, for exactly the reason you mentioned with David. While Carver does help Faust, Datasucker does the same job rather easily, and you should be making runs on centrals anyway so you can trigger your ability.

Faust is super-powerful. You can almost run with impunity, letting you face-check almost any ICE without fear. It lets you apply a lot of pressure to the corp in situations they would think you otherwise can’t handle. Installing a Faust + David and then running lets you deal with almost anything they can throw your way.

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Since winning an Eddie Kim deck box at a GNK last weekend, I’ve thought about building him in the new-old-Whizz-hotness-shell to see if it has legs. Anyone tried this yet? I’m simply asking because I’m reluctant to dismantle Sunny so soon after placing 3rd with her in the GNK, especially since I’ve made some changes.

I can see where his real problem is that the corp doesn’t need to protect remotes as much because he wants to be running centrals to nab those operations while Whizz is a threat everywhere.

This deck started as Eddie Kim: A One-Armed ICE Feast: Smashing Servers with Edward Kim | Run the Net

So that’s where the name came from! Well I guess that settles it, then? Seeing as it’s migrated to Whizz, it’s probably just better with him.

It depends on meta. That deck was built in December, when Butcher Shop was everywhere. If you expect lots of event-based corps, Ed will be a good choice.

True. I’ll toy around with it and see where I get. Especially since that deck needs some major work from the MWL.

My thinking is though Kim has a focus on centrals and still needs to threaten the scoring remote, so it’s easy to stack against. Wizz pushes icing assets which means less ice for centrals and the score. Less reliance on burning too many cards to faust for a single run and also being able to deal with the asset in the server.

I think I’d want a Nerve agent to make HQ a thing to protect.

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back when L4J whizzard was the hotness I copied that deck into E kim card for card dropping 1x liberated and 1x symmetrical for 2x scrubber and 1 medium for 1 nerve agent. It wasn’t as strong as whizzard but was still quite good. E kim’s ability is built in HQ pressure (usually) at the expensive of being worse against remotes/asset spam and roughly equal for medium digs depending on the corp deck. I like that against kill decks it really forces them to protect HQ. However in this asset heavy meta I think e kim goes from being a little worse than whizzard to a lot worse. I don’t see as much kill anymore.

This is basically how I feel about every Eddy deck I’ve played and seen. Unless it’s in a meta where literally everyone is on, like, Scorch decks, I usually feel like the rest of the Anarchs’ abilities are usually a little more valuable than Ed’s.

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