HB fast advance, Need help

[simakover]

Hello, can u help me with building HB fast advance deck, and give me advise - that packs im must buy first?
Now im have 1 core set, Creation and control, Cyber exodus.

list that i use:

Identity:
1x Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future (Core)

Agenda: (10)
1x Director Haas' Pet Project (Creation and Control)
3x Efficiency Committee (Creation and Control)
3x Project Vitruvius (Cyber Exodus)
3x Accelerated Beta Test (Core)

Asset: (10)
3x PAD Campaign (Core)
3x Alix T4LB07 (Creation and Control)
2x Melange Mining Corp (Core)
3x Adonis Campaign (Core)

ICE: (18)
1x Ichi 1.0 (Core)
2x Ichi 2.0 (Creation and Control)
3x Pop-up Window (Cyber Exodus) ■ ■ ■
2x Heimdall 2.0 (Creation and Control)
1x Ice Wall (Core) ■
3x Wall of Static (Core)
2x Rototurret (Core)
3x Enigma (Core)

Operation: (9)
2x Bioroid Efficiency Research (Creation and Control)
3x Hedge Fund (Core)
3x Biotic Labor (Core)
2x Archived Memories 2 (Core)

Upgrade: (1)
1x SanSan City Grid (Core) ■■■

that i must change?

[Gozik]

Open moves with jackson howard and next bronze. And second thoughts with shipment from sansan/restructure. JH and SfSS instead of PADs/Alix
Also the future proof is great pack with lot of usefool tools. For HB it's great Eli1.0.
try to reduce number of expensive ice. Your goal is to score 7 points, not trash runner rig or give him brain damage. So ichi2 to ichi 1 is easy swap. More Ice walls are welcome as long as you have free influence.
Btw you have 19 ap, put one more gila hands arcolodgy.

[Gozik]

I would try something like this:

Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future (Core Set)

Agenda (11)
3x Accelerated Beta Test (Core Set)
3x Efficiency Committee (Creation and Control)
2x Gila Hands Arcology (Creation and Control)
3x Project Vitruvius (Cyber Exodus)

Asset (8)
3x Adonis Campaign (Core Set)
3x Jackson Howard (Opening Moves) ···
2x Melange Mining Corp. (Core Set)

Upgrade (2)
1x Corporate Troubleshooter (Core Set)
1x SanSan City Grid (Core Set) ···

Operation (11)
2x Archived Memories (Core Set)
3x Biotic Labor (Core Set)
3x Hedge Fund (Core Set)
3x Shipment from SanSan (Second Thoughts) ···

ICE (17)
1x Bastion (Creation and Control)
2x Enigma (Core Set)
3x Ice Wall (Core Set) ···
3x Ichi 1.0 (Core Set)
3x Pop-up Window (Cyber Exodus) ···
3x Rototurret (Core Set)
1x Viktor 2.0 (Creation and Control)
1x Wall of Static (Core Set)

Cards in deck: 49 (min 45)
15/15 influence used
Agenda Points: 20
Cards up to Second Thoughts

Deck built with Net Deck http://appstore.com/netdeck

Also viable option is to buy double time instead of second thoughts and put in NAPD instead of Efficiency comitee. Then 3 slots with 3 influence can be used for Beanstalk Royalties.

But first pack you should buy - open moves. With current Noise popularity Jh is staple card.

[simakover]

Corporate Troubleshooter and Bastion is needed? and is enought economy cards?

[Gozik]

Bastion can be swap back to wall of static, but I like to diversify my ice. Different ones are better for different situations.
Corp shooter can stop siphon/trash mimic/make enigma unyogobale. It's good to have some trick in deck which is not your main game plan but it can helps sometimes.
As for economy - it should be tested, but I think it is ok. There are 8 true economy cards, +6 pseudoeconomy like pop-up and shipments with EtF ID and double Gila Hands. I think that should be enough.

[simakover]

if i put NAPD in committe slot, am i still needed SfSS? i think it is card for abuse clicks fro, committe. or not?

[Gozik]

Yes that's right. As I wrote above in this case you can swap it with beanstalks.

[simakover]

StSS im like. but may be swap sansan and troubleshooter for EVE and Bastion for viktor?
why ichi 1.0? not 2.0?

[Gozik]

Sansan is one of the best cards in this deck. When you have another core set, second SSCG is good choice. Victor is clickable, ichi2.0 is too expensive. I would not buy pack only for eve campaighn right now(only after open moves- second thoughts or double time - future proof)

As generic advice i would say that you should't theorycrafted every single card in deck, play more and test different options, if you feel that troubleshooter is useless in every single game - drop it for sure, if you feel that you have extra cash - swap ichi1.0 for ichi2.0, that's not so big deal. Perfect deck can be achived only in practice, and the base to start from you already have.

[simakover]

buyed moves and thoughts to day, try your variant.

[simakover]

sorry for miss theme, but that runer i can build with this packs? core set, Creation and control, Cyber exodus, Opening Moves, Second Thoughts? im just want a maximum strong hacker with this packs
just corparations is my primary choise)

[Chris_Pedersen]

Second Gozik
We don't play in a vaccuum. While some cards may have a tiny advantage over another, if they do not match how you play, it won't be played to full advantage.
EG:
I habitually under run. Run based income cards are not very effective in my decks...

So make a starting point - and then tune to your experience.

[Gozik]

I would try something like this but second core is strongly desirable for competitive runner deck.
Deck #12

Gabriel Santiago: Consummate Professional (Core Set)

Event (21)
2x Account Siphon (Core Set)
3x Dirty Laundry (Creation and Control)
3x Easy Mark (Core Set)
3x Emergency Shutdown (Cyber Exodus)
3x Inside Job (Core Set)
2x Special Order (Core Set)
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)
2x The Maker's Eye (Core Set) ····

Hardware (1)
1x Desperado (Core Set)

Resource (12)
2x Armitage Codebusting (Core Set)
2x Bank Job (Core Set)
2x Crash Space (Core Set)
3x Daily Casts (Creation and Control)
3x Same Old Thing (Creation and Control)

Program (11)
2x Corroder (Core Set) ····
3x Crypsis (Core Set)
2x Ninja (Core Set)
3x Parasite (Core Set) ····· ·
1x Yog.0 (Core Set) ·

Cards in deck: 45 (min 45)
15/15 influence used
Cards up to Creation and Control

Deck built with Net Deck http://appstore.com/netdeck

[simakover]

thinking that with Creation and Control shaper may be better. or not?

[Gozik]

Criminal deck will teach you to run more, with shapers you can make mistake by building your own rig without any pressure on corp. But if you want to try i would suggest something like this:
Deck #13

Chaos Theory: Wünderkind (Cyber Exodus)

Event (20)
2x Account Siphon (Core Set) ····· ···
3x Diesel (Core Set)
3x Dirty Laundry (Creation and Control)
3x Scavenge (Creation and Control)
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)
3x Test Run (Cyber Exodus)
3x The Maker's Eye (Core Set)

Hardware (4)
1x Akamatsu Mem Chip (Core Set)
3x Clone Chip (Creation and Control)

Resource (5)
3x Daily Casts (Creation and Control)
2x Same Old Thing (Creation and Control)

Program (11)
1x Atman (Creation and Control)
1x Corroder (Core Set) ··
1x Femme Fatale (Core Set) ·
1x Gordian Blade (Core Set)
2x Magnum Opus (Core Set)
2x Parasite (Core Set) ····
3x Self-modifying Code (Creation and Control)

Cards in deck: 40 (min 40)
15/15 influence used
Cards up to Creation and Control

Deck built with Net Deck http://appstore.com/netdeck

[simakover]

why chaos? kate seems better

[simakover]

and is economy enough?

[simakover]

with friend builded 2 decks, that do u think?

Gabriel Santiago: Consummate Professional (45 cards)

Event (23)
2 Account Siphon
3 Dirty Laundry
3 Easy Mark
3 Emergency Shutdown
3 Forged Activation Orders
3 Inside Job
3 Special Order
3 Sure Gamble

Hardware (5)
2 Clone Chip ••••
1 Desperado
2 R&D Interface ••••

Resource (8)
3 Daily Casts
2 John Masanori
3 Same Old Thing

Icebreaker (7)
2 Corroder ••••
1 Crypsis
2 Faerie
1 Femme Fatale
1 Gordian Blade •••

Program (2)
2 Sneakdoor Beta

Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future (49 cards, 21 agenda pts)

Agenda (10)

3 Accelerated Beta Test
1 Corporate War
1 Gila Hands Arcology
2 Priority Requisition
3 Project Vitruvius

Asset (6)
3 Adonis Campaign
3 Jackson Howard •••

Upgrade (1)
1 SanSan City Grid •••

Operation (12)
1 Archived Memories
2 Bioroid Efficiency Research
3 Biotic Labor
3 Hedge Fund
3 Restructure

Barrier (7)
1 Bastion
3 Eli 1.0
1 Heimdall 1.0
1 Heimdall 2.0
1 Wotan

Code Gate (8)
2 Enigma
3 Pop-up Window •••
3 Tollbooth ••••• •

Sentry (5)
2 Ichi 1.0
1 Ichi 2.0
2 Rototurret