[Jinteki RP] Perfecting Perfection: The Best Deck Ever

[Terrificy]

How is double Himitsu-Bako or double Crick a combo?

EDIT:
Haha oh wow what has Lukas been smoking

[king_mob]

Double bako is an awesome counter to geist.

[linuxmaier]

@king_mob

Double bako is an awesome counter to geist.

If you take away all the ice, he doesn’t have anything to use his breakers on and thus can’t draw cards! It’s foolproof!

[king_mob]

Well no thats just silly but stacking any etr is a good counter to any deck relying on the B&E suite. Bako is the cheapest option in RP unless your pack quandary.

[linuxmaier]

Bako breaks for 1 with Corroder, though, and most B&E decks run permanent breakers, too.

[Ajar]

Whooo boy, 17 ice is not a lot for RP. You can still close out games, but things can be a bit dicey as you’re setting up.

[Larro]

The change was basically 1 Bako for the 2nd Batty. You could always replace the Restructure if you wanted an 18th piece of ICE I guess. Do you typically run more than 18?

[Crunchums]

I don’t think it’s worth trying to set up the double Bako combo. But if you’re playing Bako then you should be aware of the option when they parasucker down a piece of ice in front of the Bako. For example with a server of Tollbooth > Ichi 1.0 > Bako if they parasucker down the Ichi then you can make them approach Tollbooth again if you want.

[linuxmaier]

@Crunchums

For example with a server of Tollbooth > Ichi 1.0 > Bako if they parasucker down the Ichi then you can make them approach Tollbooth again if you want.

Just make sure to bring your lawyer to explain to your opponent exactly why what you’re doing is legal.

[Ajar]

I ran 19 ice for as long as I could get away with it, but I was actually referencing @mediohxcore’s winning list with my post. Got absolutely wrecked by Noise last night. Having less ice makes that matchup even harder than it was already.

[Larro]

Is that true? That’s actually pretty hilarious.

[Crunchums]

If I ever have a server like Archer > Quandary > Bako and I can see my opponent intends to Parasite the Quandary mid-run I would definitely be like “can you please install the Parasite while you are encountering Archer? it will save us a lot of time, trust me”

[linuxmaier]

@Crunchums

“can you please install the Parasite while you are encountering Archer? it will save us a lot of time, trust me”

Ah, but what if it’s going to get suckered down like an Enigma? They still have to destroy it while encountering the ICE destroyed, which leaves the play open.

[Crunchums]

Yep, there’s no avoiding it in that case.

[linuxmaier]

@Crunchums

Yep, there’s no avoiding it in that case.

Temptation would be too strong to pull the Bako and lose your soul.

[Terrificy]

Himitsu Bako has by now simply become a tool to join the very dark side of rules lawyering based on Lukas’ Twitter rulings.

[cspieker]

Can someone link me to this Bako ruling that everyone is excited about?
Thx!

[The_One]

Yeah what is this bako necromancy? I can’t find anything about it but it sounds like Cell Portal disguised as Himitsu? The world is going crazy.

[linuxmaier]

@Crunchums

Just heard back from Lukas on two questions:

Mid-run installs trashing Crick work based on the position where Crick was pre-install. So with a server of
8 Grim (outermost)
7 Archer
6 Crick <— runner is here
5 Enigma
4 Bastion
3 Hunter
2 Datapike
1 Wall of Static (innermost)
if Crick installs Tollbooth trashing Crick, Enigma, and Bastion then
6 Tollbooth (outermost)
<— runner continues from here
5 Grim
4 Archer
3 Hunter
2 Datapike
1 Wall of Static (innermost)

So the runner would encounter Grim next. That’s the way I had been assuming it worked, but I asked because I had never seen an official ruling to that effect.

The other thing is that, contrary to the FAQ, Awakening Center encounters DO trigger Nasir’s ability.

I think I’m doing this right. It’s in post 713 on the official rules question thread, and the ensuing discussion.

EDIT: It’s basically that if your ICE is destroyed during encounter and some other ICE is destroyed/removed at the same time, you continue your run from however many ICE you were away from the end of the server, so if the server was

Tollbooth
Bako
Bako

and you’d finished passing tollbooth, the corp could pull both Bakos back when you’re encountering the first Bako. Since you were encountering the 2nd from inner ICE at the time of the disruption, you move on to encounter the 1st innermost ICE, which is now Tollbooth (again!).

If they remove the Bakos while you’re encountering Tollbooth still, you go along for the ride with the booth for some reason and end up at the server!

[cspieker]

Thanks! I’d reply, as I am filled with so many questions, but don’t want to muck up this thread.