Clone Chip + Parasite has been extremely oppressive as far as ice choices are concerned; clone chip has also single-handed-ly made destroyers worse. Clone chip warps the meta. It doesn’t break it, but it certainly warps it. Paying a steeper price for recursion will change this game. I don’t know if it will be for the better.
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Does recurring other programs with Clone Chip seem oppressive?
Because if not, it is the specific instant ability of Parasite that needs fixing (as I proffered a suggestion to) and not Clone Chip itself.
sharpshooter & deus x + clone chip is pretty strong too and shuts out a lot of decks; we could infer that FFG thought about this too. But I obviously have no idea.
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-2 clone chip
+1 clot
+1 medium/d4v1d/lamprey/sot
If they play test MWL when designing Mumbad,I have confidence in their decision.I guess we will have some ban&strict list at some point and I’m glad they did this in the most elegant way I can imagine.Remember guys,we still don’t know what would come up in Mumbad.
So,still,here is the only question we should be asking right now:
When the f*** will Kala Ghoda be released?
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Damon Stone has both in abundance, have you ever listened to the guy speak?
As far as the list itself, Clone chip has been the most influential runner card in the game since the day it was printed, and has significantly reduced the viability of tons of corp strategies. Clone Chip, Parasite, Astro, and Architect go together as a package, you either need to list all of them, or none. The rest of the choices are completely bizzare to me, especially PPVP and SanSan. Listing Lady and clone chip seems really insane too, not to mention how they’ve completely, totally gutted the most fun matchup in Netrunner, never to be seen again.
My initially reaction is that this could potentially be a good move, but will more likely be bad (looking at you RP). And either way, it will definitely not be changed until rotation occcurs.
Also, I can’t believe they targeted Crim and Kate over Noise and Val. Holy fuck that’s stupid.
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It was expected and I enjoyed the influence hit (instead of limiting by one). But I’m not so sure about the card list. Astro was always to be there, but SanSan? Its almost like limiting FA to HB decks. Yog.0 and parasite dont seem to me as powerful as DLR too. Desperado may seem like a bad thing too since criminal are not as shining as their past, but I hate it. Its one of the cards that I always felt it like a broken card (so is astro) and I’m glad is in this list too.
I assume the thought clone chip/parasite would matter to those decks and that yog would also impact them somewhat, but in the end I think anarch is the faction most easily able to cope.
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Are you ever going to tell us how to make Weyland better?
A: Make everyone else worse
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A: nerf clone chip. Archer’s biggest enemy.
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Happy with this new developments, and support Damon on this.
Best change is to Wireless Net Pavillion. Netrunner is saved.
Awesome to see @Alexfrog writing about Netrunner.
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I’ll be curious to see an RP vs. Noise matchup with -2 Clone Chips. Still seems to be advantage Noise, but not the walk it was previously.
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Sure.
First, you realize that Lady is a nightmare for Weyland. So you hammer it and the way that the nightmare card comes back, Clone Chip. Hooray!
Then, you realize that Archer / Power Shutdown are severely neutered through ubiquitous Cone Chip usage. So you definitely put Clone Chip on the list, and never let it come off.
Then, you make Yog (i.e. the EASY button way of blanking two of three frequent Weyland code gates, Datapike and Enigma) annoying to import. Woo! (Seriously though, that is the only one of these card choices I don’t get…)
Then you slap Parasite around a bit, so that not Blue Sun Weyland IDs don’t automatically get the entirely legitimate, “Yeah, but Blue Sun deals with parasite,” response. Also, Tour Guide!
Then you take a giant nerf bat and beat the living hell out of NBN and the two sweet pieces of ICE that Weyland just can’t afford to import most of the time, Architect and Eli 1.0 (Weyland, king of the barriers once again!).
So yeah, I can’t see how Weyland isn’t happy here.
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I had the same thoughts about Faust when I saw the list. I see it in more decks that an Yog by a significant margin these days plus it allows conversion of one resource for another (cards for credits) at a (imho) much too efficient way. Given the reasons Damon posted for making the changes, Faust should have been there before Lady.
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And now Weyland will never be able to afford to import them. There still needs to be good Weyland ice.
Prior to these influence changes, how many Weyland decks imported either of those though? Some Gagarin builds plopped in Architect, I guess, but I haven’t seen either of those in well known Blue Sun builds. I just think that the hit that Clone Chip and Lady got will make Weyland barriers, Archer, and Power Shutdown better. But I also see the CC hit as a hit to David too, which makes me happy.
I’m not saying that these changes will make Weyland dominate, or that they now have super-sweet ICE, but it certainly didn’t hurt.
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Seeing as Professor isn’t really affected by these changes, is he going to be viable?
Is Custom Biotics going to be an ID for people who just want to play their old school decks?
I am pretty excited to see some of these changes! I cannot wait to try a few games out in this setting.
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The Professor was bad. Making Corps somewhat worse won’t make him playable.
Really, he has gotten worse and worse over time, nothing can save him D:
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i mostly agree with the cards they’re trying to balance but in-faction influence costs are stupid and confusing. another barrier to getting new players. sigh.
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