Exactly.
Does nobody like Corroder? How are you dealing with Wraparound without it?
I am heavily dependent on Grimoireās 2MU, especially since I gave up Levy for Trope to recur Parasites, Cache, Clone Chip, and occasionally fodder. If I went to Turntable, Iād have to add MU (probably via Djinn).
I didnāt feel the need for a second corroder yet. Vs wraparound you have 2 d4vids till you draw into corroder. 3 breakers for what is usually just 3 barriers in NBN is fair game IMO.
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I did note that youāll need a corroder or d4v1d in the op. But ya, 2MU and a great console ability solve a lot of issues with slots you have find room for without Grimoire.
Totally, Iām still 1 corroder and 2 davids.
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Iāve playing a noise siphon dlr that i see on meteor. I think itās from @TheBigBoy Itās really fun and iām having success with it in jinteki but i donāt know if it will be viable in a competitive environment. Any advice?
Could you link it, please?
Thanks. No plascretes?
Haha I canāt believe this got out.
Donāt play this with friends. Itās totally unfun.
Great players will (probably) never lose to it, but it buries the unprepared.
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Yeah! for me itās a lot of fun when the first siphon comes xD
Yea siphon noise is nothing new, but for those expecting durdley faust noise shenannigans, this is a rude awakening. I do also think good players can pick up on siphon early, and it isnāt a big deal to play around.
If you land a turn 1-2 full siphon against even a good player you pretty much win though. The whole deck is optimized to never let them back into the game once that happens.
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I think most people are happier to ice HQ first nowadays against Noise (well since Lamprey came on-board), whereas they used to usually go for RnD first, fearing the Medium dig. Still, itās a heckuva nice sneak attack.
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I havenāt seen a lot of MWL Faust-Noise lists, so I thought Iād share mine. This deck carried my corp at my last SC, and I donāt see a lot of changes coming to it soon.
Deck #52
Noise: Hacker Extraordinaire (Core Set)
Event (6)
3x DĆ©jĆ Vu (Core Set)
3x Iāve Had Worse (Order and Chaos)
Hardware (3)
1x Clone Chip (Creation and Control) [color=#32CD32]ā ā¢ā¢[/color]
2x Grimoire (Core Set)
Resource (14)
2x Adjusted Chronotype (The Valley)
3x Aesopās Pawnshop (Core Set) [color=#32CD32]ā¢ā¢ā¢ā¢ā¢ ā¢[/color]
3x Daily Casts (Creation and Control)
1x Hades Shard (First Contact) [color=#708090]ā¢[/color]
2x Street Peddler (The Underway)
3x Wyldside (Core Set)
Icebreaker (5)
1x Corroder (Core Set)
3x Faust (The Underway)
1x Mimic (Core Set)
Program (18)
3x Cache (The Spaces Between) [color=#4169E1]ā¢ā¢ā¢[/color]
2x D4v1d (The Spaces Between)
2x Datasucker (Core Set)
3x Imp (What Lies Ahead)
2x Lamprey i[/i]
2x Medium (Core Set)
2x Parasite (Core Set) [color=#FF4500]āā[/color]
2x Trope (Old Hollywood)
12 influence spent (max 15-3ā=12)
46 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Old Hollywood
Deck built on NetrunnerDB.
I dropped the 3rd Parasite for a Hades Shard, which has won several games for me. Iāve been pretty happy with Trope, I donāt like losing the MU, but there is enough with Grimoire.
Using Trope to load up my stack with some of my best cards, while still leaving some powerful targets for Deja Vu and Clone Chip has been great. Recovering a spent Iāve Had Worse from a failed flatline attempt also saved me once. I like Trope a lot more than I thought I would, right now I think itās better than Levy, even setting the influence aside.
What do you guys think? This thread seems to have died when MaxX came onto the scene.
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Think the thread died a bit cos mwl did almost nothing to noise. IMO Noise is the best deck at the moment and it doesnāt matter too much how you build it.
Iāve been playing with alternatives to the one clone chip - Iām digging double sac con. Saves clot, faust from swordsman, or a resource from being trashed. Also helps keep lamprey lock on when thatās going for you. Itās super - oppressive.
Edit: sac con doesnāt save resources!
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I like your suggestion of 2x Sacrificial Construct to protect key cards, including the econ engine resources, most of the trouble I get into is from corps tagging me to trash Aesopās and Wyldside.
But I think the MWL did impact Noise, I had to drop some clone chips, levy and Yog (though I hadnāt been installing Yog anyways). I think a lot of Noise decks lost 4-5 influence. Unfortunately, I think the MWL changes may have stripped Noise decks to a tighter core with less diversity given there is less influence to spend now.
I guess Iāve been curious about how other runners have been managing without Levy more than anything else.
All the old Noise players arenāt that chuffed about it. Was always cool being a little underrated.
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Sac con is a great idea. Iv always found resource heavy noise to get a lot of hate from tag storm decks though. How are you finding the sync or haarp matchups?
Edit - actually like you said sac con helps there too. Neat.
How does saccon help with resources?
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