Is there a way to officially confirm this? (The search an empty stack part. Failing to search is clearly covered by the rules.)
I am quite new to Netrunner but thought I understood the rules. I could not find anything in the rules or FAQ that states or implies you can not search an empty stack.
Wasn’t there a ruling that you cannot play Diesel when you have empty stack? Seems to be similar.
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You can search an empty stack, the question is whether or not this (or the subsequent shuffling of zero cards) is seen as having the potential to change the game state. If it doesn’t, you can’t use the effect (even if the costs of the effect would change the game state).
If the corp uses targeted marketing and name liberated account, and the runner plays career fair into liberated account, does targeted marketing trigger?
Thanks that clarifies it. Can you point me to the part of the rules where this is mentioned?
It’s not in the rules as such, but the FAQ/errata document. In the current version it’s at the bottom of page 3.
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Targeted Marketing says “Name a card. Gain 10 whenever the Runner plays or installs a copy of that card”. Since Liberated Account was named, and the runner installed Liberated Account, the corp would gain 10 credits.
Is the confusion Career Fair? The runner is still installing Liberated Accounts, even if Career Fair is giving them the install action to do so.
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As already mentioned, searching an empty stack is surely something you’re able to do, but it’s more a question of whether or not it changes the game state.
You can submit official rules questions through FFG’s customer service.
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This seems at odds with the practice of increasing an icebreaker’s strength outside of an encounter window (e.g. pumping corroder to go from 3 credits to 2 just prior to faceplanting into a tollbooth).
I think the distinction is that increasing the icebreaker’s strength is, in and of itself, a change in the game state (as the strength of the icebreaker is a part of that state, even if it has no further ramifications).
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As @Dragar mentioned, this one that can be answered by a careful review of the text of the cards. Target Marketing says “plays” or “installs”. Career Fair says “install”. Therefore, it triggers.
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So, this is the most pedantic question ever, but
Suppose I have a Trope with zero counters on it. I believe it is legal for me to activate Trope because shuffling my stack counts as changing the game state, but illegal to activate it if my stack is empty. But what about if my stack has exactly one card in it - does shuffling a 1 card stack count as changing the game state?
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So, the newly spoiled Net Chip from Business First:
Net Chip
Shaper Hardware - Consumer-grade, Chip. Cost 1, Influence 2
Net Chip can host a program, with MU equal or less than the number of copies of Net Chip installed.
The memory costs of hosted program do not count against your memory limit.
Limit 6 per deck.
I have two Net Chips installed. One is hosting a Magnum Opus, and the other is empty. I trash the empty one with Aesop. What happens to the Magnum Opus?
More generally: is the legality of hosting a particular thing checked only when the hosting relationship is created, or is it a constantly checked state?
That is an interesting question, I’d like to add a follow-up question:
If I use Dr Lovegood to blank a hardware that is hosting a program (e.g. Dinosaurus, Net Chip), does the hosted program get trashed?
If trashed is the wrong word (I suspect it is) what is the correct wording? I suspect this would not allow me to collect credits from wasteland if I found some clever way to trash a bunch of cards (e.g. Daemon tree hosted on a Net Chip)
I think in if you had a program on dino, it would still stay hosted on it, just lose the +STR and start costing mu.
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@BubbaTheGoat in the gase of Dr. Lovegood the card definitely stays hosted - cards hosted on another card with no restrictions remain hosted (in the FAQ they give the example of a corp card host other cards getting de-rezzed, and there’s also the example of hosting relationships remaining after an apocalypse)
@Kesterer this is definitely a good question, as I don’t think we’ve had a a card like this (which has hosting restrictions, but they change). My thought is that the magnum opus would trash, but I have only flimsy evidence. FIrst off is that the FAQ states that “The state of hosting is distinct (but not exclusive from) the state of installing.” this, coupled with rulings re: film critic and worlds plaza (stating that any printed method for hosting on a card should also be considered a restriction for how cards can be hosted on the card) makes me think that this changing restriction (which is distinct from removing a restriction entirely with dr. lovegood) would sever the hosting relationship.
Like I said though, this is definitely new territory, so there’s no hard precedent for hosting restrictions taking effect only after something is hosted.
What would happen if you had two assets on a World’s Plaza and then derezzed the Plaza?
Hosting specifications are constantly checked.
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@popeye09 cool, that seems definitive then re: the new chips.
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What would happen if you had two assets on a World’s Plaza and then derezzed the Plaza?
[/quote] they stay where they are. from the faq page 4:
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This isn’t exactly a “new” combo (posts go back on it through the DDoS spoilers), but people seem saltier about it lately, and some have suggested (although no one has been able to point me to it) that there was a ruling against it. Just to be clear, “outermost” refers to position and is different than the “first piece of ice approached,” right? That is, if you pop DDoS and run a server with 2 pieces of unrezzed ice, you can pop Echo as you pass the first one (forcing the bounce, as “cannot” trumps the option on Echo). This means the second piece of ice you approach is now the “outermost” before there is an opportunity to rez, correct? One can presume similar interactions with, say, Surfer and Alpha (i.e. you wouldn’t be able to break w/ Alpha if you surfed in first)?
Likewise, if some confluence of events should conspire to give the opportunity to rez the outermost piece of on a different server (say Silhouette/Blackguard) during a run, DDoS would prevent that as well, right?
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