It affects all the boring agendas in RP and midseason/punitive, but it does almost nothing against HB in general, and you need to include it in your deck at the cost of general efficiency, I’d say that’s a silver bullet. Clot affects every Corp that plays any fast advance agendas, so all of them, and it’s still a silver bullet, cause it effectively stops the most heinous fast advance strategies. It’s still useful against weyland/jinteki 2/1s, in the same way film critic will ease the burden of an napd contact steal from time to time, but then you’re getting to the point where you’re thinking about playing Hudson 1.0 to combat multi access.
Also, you can’t instant search your deck for film critic with smc/clone chip, so installing the card is always going to cost a click reserved solely for playing film critic, and people are going to play around that Corp side enough that it won’t stop Old Hollywood from being viable as a win condition. Not only that, but the fact that this upgrade is only 2 influence, and can be used on every server effectively means that it will convince certain players to switch over to a more glacier/never advance style rather than use SanSan which can only be used on a remote effectively.
I’d say that makes it worth trying to make it work, especially when you consider that sea source is still a thing,
You like to insert hyperbole where there was none, don’t you?
I’ve never said it’s not worth building around, in fact I’ve said I think the card is very strong, just that it will be wise not to rely on it in the period shortly after Film Critic comes out because it will see a lot of play.
I’m not interested in getting into a debate about the definition of a silver bullet, suffice to say that Film Critic impacts a substantially larger portion of strategies than Clot does.
I’m not sure how playing around Film Critic and Old Hollywood go together. If you’re referring to people scoring agendas before they see a Film Critic, that’s less “playing around Film Critic” and more “playing Netrunner”, old Hollywood or no. If the Runner has Critic, they’ll play it and run. It wouldn’t matter if they could find it at instant speed, because they couldn’t find it while they’re accessing an agenda anyway.
I really just wanted to discuss old Hollywood, before we get to distracted.
It’s more like, having to consider that you need film critic before going after agendas means until you play it, the Corp knows you have 1 less click to play with, which is important for taxing.
I’ve been trying OHG in IG and film critic keeps ruining my day - IG builds with 5/3 don’t seem fast enough to get sufficient points before the Critic turns up.
Well the games won by scoring are on the back of caprice. Unlike Ash which has to be dealt with (or will inflict at least a 4 credit tax) the runner doesn’t have to get rid of OHG (paying the IG toll) - they can just spend 1 credit and an install to beat the 5+ credits invested in OHG.
I’m not saying IG can’t win, it’s that it can’t win fast enough that OHG won’t be trumped by Film Critic, so Ash seems better use of influence.
That’s assuming people are playing film critic a lot, but it’s definitely better than ash otherwise, Imp is your weak link there, and you can counter that with cyberdex. Have you tired giving snatch and grab or corporate town a try?
This just in: tested the grid, rezzed it for 5 credits, the agenda got Film Critic’ed. This card is “cute” unless you run tech to kill FC. Ash any day of the week.
Which is where I tried it, actually. FWIW in Gagarin, with 6 unique agendas to maximize the grid’s potential, but yeah, they just into the server and throw me the finger as they FC it. Weyland suffers from a lack of remote defenses and FC squashes the only thing they have in faction currently- Scorchand Punitive. There is simply no place for this upgrade in terms of reliability when compared with Ash, which will be literally everywhere now. The only way to stop FC is to keep them from ever accessing the agenda- Ash and Caprice. Nice job FFG, way to further stymie the Corp meta while simultaneously buffing the best/most consistent runner deck.
they have a long history of releasing a card that looks like it could be good and then providing the foil for it in close proximity, if not the same pack.
Has any of you people tried to run OHG with Manhunt? Sems like a good devil’s fork, as it’s both oppressive and solves the Film Critic issue - or rather, the necessity of using Film Critic on the runner’s side solves the issues with Manhunt. If they go tag-me, no Critic (back up with Closed Accounts/UCF and you’re good). If they don’t, they’re burning a shit-ton of money to keep the Critic around… possibly more than the OHG would cost them in the first place.
A fine idea, it’s not like they just waltz away with your agendas with film critic active, they still got to pay, and manhunt could be the difference between scoring an agenda hosted on FC, or having a chance at recovering it later
It counters this strategy, but doesn’t invalidate it. I was still able to win both of those games against Film Critic and this deck is not tuned with a fallback strategy in mind.
- IG builds with 5/3 don’t seem fast enough to get sufficient points before the Critic turns up.