Excalibur is the other removed card I guess ? (Excaliben sort of work though)
So you’re @14 ices, I’m @15 and @Saan still enjoys his Statics & 3x big codegates vs Shaper + Lady + TTW ? (trolling, sorry.).
In theory, Kakugo / Ben transforms any Obokata in difficult to steal 5/4 (because the flow asks you to put Obo & Ben there the same turn : IIA, then AAA, then A clone or consulting clone).
But this asks 3 cards + Kakugo + 2 turns during the runner can play Critic like a Mill + go fetch advanced stuff that none of us have a reply for (MCA ends the turn, then mkay the runner got a tag, woooo so much danger), so the conditions seems to be quite difficult to meet, no ?
Any runner drawing 2x Critics can void the deck.
Just any. The only reason it works is because critic runner either play noobishly, topdeck critic and noobishly rush install it saying “Haha! WHODOYOUGONNACALL” (I’m part of these childish runners btw) and then you reply MCA “GHOSTBUSTERS!” (I’m part of these childish corpos btw), or just doesn’t draw their breakcon or get rushed.
Now, Shapers, that 100% of them should play Scavenge/Lady/Tapwrm/Dummybox instead of PClips, so these Shapers VS here, those ice distrib made of all-in-one “got DNA, that’s an uber codegate you dirty Shaper” ?
Beside Komainus, I see nothing that makes problems to Shapers there. Say your Shaper’s breakers are Ladys / whatever some uber decoder / Nanot’k + Aumakua as a backup, which seems to be the least inf goto suite, what do you rez to stop the dude ?
This deck need swiftness, Kakugo maybe, Hokusai maybe, in my opinion. Because those cards combat runners keeping stuff in hand. And then just stop pretending Pup makes work there when they does not. If you want to rez bothering 1c’s, then rez Aiki and throws Pups in the river where they belongs.
Deckbuilding 101 says more subs than total of ice within a family, and more str than total of ice within a family, and I see problems in all your distrib there. Meaning runners having exploits because of your designs, and not because of theirs.
Exemple : most killers and most fracters against your distrib never pumps. Consequence, subs never hit. Now let’s see where are all your etr mmm… On 1str ice. Cool. Let’s use the R&D diggable Batty steam machine to colmate that 0-day then, and just pretend R&D with more 1c trash cards because of strange ice distrib design is ok when you play 7/49 1str ice.
Because well, I guess those 2-part sort of Snowflakes becomes better today than they were before they rotated. Won’t say I understand totally the logic behind Battys.
Kakugo terribly helps against that, sure. But they are not cheap. My choice is the one that can’t be talked about.
Anarch plays PClips, Kakugo are a nice clic tax for them but that makes them draw dirty stuff. They will have problem against codegates if they don’t splash Shaper’s uberdecoder, that’s it. They may very much do that.
And now Criminal, for them Sentry are null, playing PClip, having trouble with kakugo only, and then they will have trouble against codegates only, like always if they use cheap decoders.
Forgot someone ? Yeah sure : Shaper which seems to be the strongest faction got cool decoders and crap pumping killer/decoder but doesn’t mind => throw your ice away against 1/3 of the field. The Critic faction exploit your distribs guys.
If this rule exist, it’s not to be forgotten only 3 years after Darwinsucker popped up just because “yay no more Parasite!” : 1str ice was crap ice, and today it is just permacrap ice.
Now when I see “all barrier are 1str!” or “all sentry are 1str!”, then the runner just say “cool. Then I guess I’ll install a barrier/killer and… well, that it ? just break the sub I don’t want ?”
Komainu / Batty just doesn’t exist. Or you’ve found a prototype of runner facechecking Jinteki with 0c or no killer and in that case if you have 6-7c go for the 66%-100% kill.
Could be okay if it was gearcheck rushy stuff. In that case, then put draw in the middle of there.
My conclusions leads me to these 15 ices :
- Chiyashi (my answer to Crim & Shapers) / (Kakugo or QS) / Ice wall x 2 : total str 11+, sub 6,
- DNA (my answer to Crim & Anarch) / Aiki / Lockdown / Macrophage / Miraju x2 : total str 21, sub 5-9 (only “flaw” is DNA’s 3 + Aiki’s 2 then ignore the others. I’m fine with this. Not breaking lockdown is an error and people pays for unbroke aiki anyway).
- Susano (my answer to Shaper & Anarch) / Komainu x 2 / Swordman / Errand boy : total str 11, sub 6+komainus
Hard etr + deflect ratio = 1/3 (which is lame for a glacier)
Total cost : 59-60.
Money provided by econ : 60 if melange stays one turn (+28 if melange stays 3 turns like the launch camp does) + ID paying for install cost + then me clicking creds, not in all games, for ops & agenda, recurence out of the equation.
Money provided by both of your econs : 58 + ID + 6c from 6x clic cred (those clicks of my melange, +12c if my melange stays 3 turns), recurence out of the equation.
Saan’s 16 cost is 65 and 14 of yours cost 61 with Saan’s econ.
Now I’d agree I sound what you want me both to sound but if you have problems with your ice or econ I’d try something a little more taxing
Removing a Swordman for Kakugo or QS is about what I use now. I use QS because (insert another wall of text), anyway I want better economical arguments against it. I have somehow a problem seeing it criticized by people putting Pup in their decks when jinteki is the 1c wtf faction.