I’ve played a bunch with this deck, with different cards in the “hacktivist/Inject” slot (datasucker, some extra cash), and I prefer Inject in almost every situation. I haven’t played with Desperado here, but I can’t imagine it’s better than Lucky Find + Vigil (for this deck).
Also, RP is packing Crisium now, which makes it a very, very hard matchup (worse than when they were just playing Caprice/Ash).
just played this at a GNK yesterday, finished 1st but last round i was running first, and it took 60 mins to end. Guess it’s a strong signal for me to not bring this at a regional.
Playing desperado make running and trashing the econ assets really really cheap. Since HB with sexbot is the hardest match-up, playing desperado make this match-up a bit less one sided.
Have you played vs sexbot Turing HB? The deck needs some tech for this piece of ice for sure. Sure it’s generally worse then wraparound and Lotus, but in faction it will be played…
I did and the thing with turing is that you can still click through it if you run on first click. It only matters if you stack 2 turing on the same remote but even then, you can still use D4V1D to go through. My Headlock play 2 D4V1D and I think right now, it’s pretty good call.
Turing + crisium on HQ seems like it would shut down vamp pretty hard.
Can still be clicked through. And turing on HQ means a str 2 turing which is pretty weak to parasite.
If you’re gonna spend your whole turn and 5$ to trash Eve, the game probably will be lost. 2nd David might be the best answer, although I hate losing a slot.
Played some SHL4 games with @kiv’s list and I really like it. Made two changes recently. Scrubber is rubbish, more econ should be better. Dirty Laundry is fine here, but I wanted to pack more $ in a single slot.
-1 Scrubber -1 Dirty Laundry +1 Symmetrical Vissage +1 Queens Gambit
Nice. Never liked the Scubber enthusiasm; just get something that gives actual credits instead. Scrubber is overcosted at 2.
A lot of games scrubber gets me 12+ credits, very few cards can replace that. I like the miser’s copy.
Have you considered going Tagme with a resource package? Joshua B and Data Leak Reversal are both insane cards. Fall Guy supports them very well, and Account Siphon is a natural inclusion from there. John Masanori is not as good as Joshua but still solid.
These 12 resources (and Siphon) can break most corps as you have more resources than they will have credits to trash them with - and if they go untrashed, the corporation loses after a few turns of “mill 5”.
A Bad Pub package (Activist Support, Investigative Journalism) can be added, although most decks don’t usually have room for it.
Here’s the list I’ve been peddling:
Identity
1x Quetzal
R&D / Stack
3x Data Leak Reversal
3x Dirty Laundry
3x Imp
3x John Masanori
3x Joshua B.
3x I’ve Had Worse
3x Inject
3x Knight
3x Day Job
3x Wanton Destruction
3x Parasite
3x Sure Gamble
3x Account Siphon
3x Fall Guy
3x Deja Vu
If Quetzal doesn’t appeal to you, you can switch to Reina Roja by swapping a few cards for Corroders - or just run without Corroders if you’re not afraid of Ice Walls/Wraparounds/Paper Wall.
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But seriously, the ID does a lot of work over the course of the game.
I don’t get the hate on scrubber, I’m up to 2, just so I see it, cash is rarely a problem. Y’all play a totally different game than me.
Jens net decked Headlock; never played before Monday. Took it to 2nd in Wausau. He had to sweep @aandries in last round of Swiss to make cut. Lost in first round of elims, and climbed back.
Solid pilot. I’m taking it to my next regional.
So you’re saying you frequently get your singleton scrubber down early enough to trash 7 things? That seems a bit overblown.
On average what do you think Scrubber makes you, deducting the install cost?
So you’re telling me to take it instead of Noise next weekend huh? Goddamn it, I just tilted back to Noise too…
edit also congrats.
Not frequently, but if I draw it early in a match where it is relevant it can get me between 5-10 trashes depending on how long the match goes, if I draw it late in those matches, it still usually gets about 3 uses, or it’s too late for a money card to matter anyway (either I’m about to win or the other guy is). The deck has enough draw power/redundant amounts of money that it can afford a dead draw in the (very rare) matchups where it does nothing, and decks that primarily rely on operation econ are weaker to all the other disruption anyway. The only reason I’m not on 2 is they get worse in multiples, except against asset spam neh and ig, which are not common decks.
Which version did he go with?
Yours with Hacktivist.
Kati is slow. Upgraded her to parties and pancakes.
PancakeReina
Reina Roja: Freedom Fighter
Event (9)
3x I’ve Had Worse
3x Lucky Find ••••• •
3x Sure Gamble
Hardware (5)
3x Clone Chip ••••• •
2x Spinal Modem
Resource (13)
2x Adjusted Chronotype
3x Daily Casts
2x Liberated Account
1x Scrubber
3x Wyldside
2x Xanadu
Icebreaker (5)
1x Corroder
3x Eater
1x Knight
Program (13)
2x Clot
3x Crescentus •••
1x D4v1d
1x Keyhole
3x Lamprey
3x Parasite
Without vamp you’re going to have a bad time.
Tried it. Never used it. You need to a credit lead (i.e. an advantaged position) to exploit Vamp, but if you have good econ and you’re drawing threats, forcing corp to rez is sufficient to keep the corp poor. Parties and pancakes allows you to draw Crescentus, Parasite and Clone Chips much faster than any Kati build.