Can’t come soon enough!
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A lot of people have been expressing worry about Jackson rotating out. I agree with them, but not with their reasoning. The complain I have generally heard and read is that without Jackson, Corps will be ill-suited to deal with bad draws. While that is true, I think the bigger issue will be breaking RND lock. Even now, with Howard in most Corp decks, it can be very difficult to break RND lock, through Medium and RDI, much less 2 RDI. Fast Track is a good tool, but it’s not played much outside NBN and Weyland Rush.
Personally I hope we see another tool for avoiding/cheating RND lock before Jackson rotates. Ideally it would be neutral. Granted, RND is the only way many Runner decks can win, and Medium already has a check in place with CVS. That said, I think NBN and kill decks may become the new standard after rotation if there isn’t some sort of replacement for Jackson in this regard. I suppose Anonymous Tip is forever available, and at the same influence cost as Jackson. Moreover, you typically can’t lose Tips in centrals, so maybe Anonymous Tip and Fast Track will be enough to find agendas when you need them in a meta without Howard.
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I think there are plenty of ways to break R&D lock other than Fast Track and Anonymous Tip:
Lily Lockwell
Corporate Shuffle (Would love to see this happen)
Tech Startup
Executive Boot Camp
Levy University (Granted, awful)
Daily Business Show (can help)
Most of these are NBN, but Boot Camp is Weyland and there are neutral options. I’m sure I left out a few as well. I don’t think R&D lock will be the main problem with Jackson rotation, I think the main problem will be agenda flood and maybe mill.
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Lily Lockwell & Fast Track aren’t going anywhere. I think breaking R&D lock won’t be a major concern.
But, I do think that the noise matchup is going to be a huge issue for every corp deck. The fact is that every good card in a noise deck right now isn’t rotating, except imp. The economy is unaffected, and maybe it has to run some crappier viruses where it slots imp, but you could pretty much do that today and not hurt your matchup horrendously.
Let’s look at this highly rated noise deck:
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Noise: Hacker Extraordinaire
Event (4)
3x Déjà Vu - stays
1x Immolation Script - stays
Hardware (5)
3x Clone Chip ••••• • - stays
2x Grimoire - stays
Resource (14)
2x Adjusted Chronotype - stays
3x Aesop’s Pawnshop ••••• • - stays
3x Daily Casts - stays
3x Street Peddler - stays
3x Wyldside - stays
Icebreaker (4)
1x Corroder - stays
2x Faust - stays
1x Mimic - stays
Program (18)
3x Cache ••• - stays
1x Clot - stays
2x D4v1d - stays
3x Datasucker - stays
3x Imp - rotates
2x Lamprey - stays
1x Medium - stays
3x Parasite - stays
15 influence spent (max 15)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Underway
Decklist published on http://netrunnerdb.com.
Total cards rotating: 1
Total jacksons rotating: 1
I’m sure it’ll be fine; same count rotating for each side.
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Startup and EBC can work, but to do so you have to hold them in your hand throughout the game, which isn’t ideal. They are also both trashed from centrals (like Howard). I agree about Corporate Shuffle but I think they doomed that card with the Double restriction. DBS may very well make a resurgence. Personally I don’t think University is worth mentioning, and I’d rather run Fast Track than Lockwell, although if installed previously she can draw you into an agenda to FA. Only worth considering in NBN, which has the most options to break RND lock.
With Imp and Whizzard gone, Anarchs become much more vulnerable to assets. Team Sponsorship and Business Show for everyone!
My post was very much Tongue and Cheek, FFG rotation policy is glacial. Bring on the rotation already so I don’t have to buy anymore binders.
Wow, I just realized my favorite ID will be gone forever. I’m actually really bummed now. The only Shaper I play is rotating, too. FeelsBadMan
With Whizzard gone, I feel like Edward Kim becomes somehow worse than he is right now.
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Also, everything that makes RP good, including RP itself (but also sundew, celeb gifts, eli, ash, caprice, j-how, etc)
Its pretty much every archetype though. Beale/Atlas/Midseasons/Eve/etc. Name a corp deck, something is rotating.
Yes, but you are drawing 5 potential agendas, more powerful than any other ability to break R&D lock. It also dilutes R&D with nonagendas from your hand in this case, making R&D lock less productive for the runner. The other advantage is that it can’t be trashed normally. Also, it still leaves a click left to install an agenda in your safe remote if that’s what you’re looking for. There’s no room for it with Jackson around, but maybe after rotation? Wait, it’s in the last pack of the Spin Cycle. It won’t have its time to shine. 
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I’ve played it and gone down to 2 jackson on occassion; I’ve pretty much learned that if my deck can’t deal with agendas in a normal situation it needs to be retooled. But, flood is flood is flood. Only so much you can do there, and even then you don’t always see jackson. In fact, even if you do its rarely enough and I’d rather just Corp Shuffle.
Very hard to slot, either way.
I wish ffg would just errata the corp default action card to be able shuffle away a card from HQ or RnD for a double click or a click and a credit. Jackson did fix the flood problem but if that’s really a problem then it’s the game that needs the errata not a string of cards that are like Jackson but not as good
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I think we could just use less powerful hand management tools in the form of cards if the threat of noise/dlr didn’t exist. If there’s a problem, its that the mill condition is noncombatible and unninteractive. Its easily my least favorite part of the game in high quantities.
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While people have been poo-pooing her as a crappy Jackson, Shannon Claire actually has a solid ability to break R&D lock and/or protect an agenda in Archives.
You don’t get to see what the runner does, but the cards you draw are ones they haven’t gotten to check just yet. You can also hide an agenda or two for later (one from R&D then one from Archives to avoid shuffling them in), which limits her use until you want to draw them… but means the runner won’t be seeing them first.
The 2-inf means she’ll not see much play outside of NBN (or maaaybe 5 Agenda Weyland) but she’s still there, ready to fill Jackson’s role as best she can once he’s gone.
Personally I don’t consider any 2-influence card to be a reasonable Jackson replacement. 1 influence for non-NBN already became unacceptable IMO, especially towards Weyland who have to splash for ways to actually score agendas. I would like to see the next card like Jackson to be either a Weyland card, or a neutral card costing 1 influence.
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At least DLR will rotate out!
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Everyone looking forwards to the new FA vs mill meta? Which side can win their game of solitaire first!
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In-faction still counts, though others (especially poor Weyland) need to get solutions of some sort as well. I think Weyland’s the only one without anything that could really function like that (even if Jinteki’s options are lackluster).
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Everyone looking forwards to the new FA vs mill meta? Which side can win their game of solitaire first!
[/quote]The one that isn’t actually playing solitaire, generally.
So the problem with making faction specific jacksons is that you have a couple pretty big pitfalls.
- The jackson’s are low influence and good, and some decks play 6-7 (or more).
- The jacksons are high influence and you risk weyland’ing some faction who has a shitty one.
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I vote for Weylanding being an official term, as of now.
Alternatively we can use the phrase, “That’s So Weyland!”
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