Play student loans. Baaaahahaha
Oh boy, I get to name things I hate!
- Blackmail
- Blacklist (Iâm not racist, I swear.)
- Chronis Protocol
Cards that go âYou canât do X, neenerneenerâ can pretty much fuck right off.
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RP would too. So, all Jinteki decks⌠you know, sorta like the thing that happens to Weyland and HB decks on a regular basis.
Yes. Itâs an agenda that has an interesting enabler effect once scored, rather than being worth half the total agenda points of a deck and utter bullshit while not scored.
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Iâll never forget losing a game to RP because I couldnât score TFP at worlds last year. Iâd never had a problem with TFP before that, but playing against that deck was hard. It sucks knowing you made the right tough calls (because you saw the agenda), but that the psi game was what knocked you down a bracket. Iâm not convinced I could have played the psi game right in that case; mostly because there is no ârightâ way to play the psi game. The right way is to know either what your opponent wonât pick (on one side), or what they will pick (on the other side). And thatâs a fools errand.
But, the really right move is to tech for it with Imp or Film Critic now that the future is here. I used to feel the same way about siphon, and I donât think Iâve ever stopped feeling that way about siphon.
The thing is Hate is such a strong word. And Iâm not mad. But, you canât argue with that feeling you get when youâre being defeated by the game youâre playing and there wasnât an obvious move to make in context. Even a non-obvious move post-post is only a slight feel better.
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The Zen response is surely to shrug, and accept you put yourself in the best position to win given the information you had, and the dice didnât come up in your favour.
But sure. We all get that feeling.
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Still, I personally would rather be lucky than good!
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basically all those cards both a) have to be played to have any effect and b) can be played around in other way than just âalways have cash to throw at them.â NAPD, TFP, and midseasons are all completely passive threats (well, triggering midseasons is a passive affair, obviously actually using it is a click, but itâs after the fact) to which the only counters are either large credit stockpiles or Imp, which obviously is both expensive in influence and relatively easily countered.
anyways, not saying theyâre broken; just that they âmake me madâ and that Iâm glad runners are getting an option to counter them at the cost of clicks and deckspace.
There are a lot of other counters to Midseason. Plascrete is still a card that exists. Anarchs have Keyhole and Singularity. Criminals have, uh, Dorm Computer and Paper Tripping.
OK, you know what I mean. RP at least makes you run a central first, giving all your remotes protection inherently. But weyland and HB have ice that is just better designed to actually keep people out, not just deter them until they have the final solution. I say final solution because of cards like keyhole and anything one plays crisium grid to avoid. Hateful cards like account siphon and vamp. Snare isnât enough of a deterrent to multi access, and that screws jinteki the hardest. If it werenât for the future perfect, youâd hardly want to play three pointers in any jinteki deck.
That being said, I would rather people play labyrinthine servers as well, itâs just not going to happen haha. Maybe if film critic is such a big deal, people will make rp servers a little more buff, and a combination of ancestral imager and labyrinthine servers will allow for a different pain filled RP. But most likely, people are just going to make minor additions to the existing archetypes and lean on batty and caprice more.
Also, my hate card is Valencia, cause of the constant blackmail threat being so oppressive, thereby requiring cards like ash or caprice, or something that can negate not being able to rez ice.
Yes
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Do you want people to play that card cause itâs easier to score?
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No, I want people to play that card because it means less people play Future Perfect, which is a boring-ass agenda.
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I would like to live in the alternate universe where Students Loans was worth playing. Itâs telling that even in the best possible meta for it where the strongest runner plays only event economy, itâs still a bad card.
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Weâre both set in our opinions and thatâs okay. I like Gyri Labyrinth too, but I donât think one can realistically argue that Gyri, Ireress, or Monitor would have ever seen play as printed, even without Yog. No one was going to pay 4 to rez Monitor ever, except maybe in a fun casual deck. (Honestly itâs more reasonable to splash Matrix Analyzer, even for 2 influence). I suppose Ireress could be considered interesting, but it suffers from being positional and the fact that we still donât have a valid reason to play it. Itâs not like Modernism is concerned about negating BP.
I also think itâs being hyperbolic to call Enigma âmeh.â That is an incredible piece of ICE, and has had to contend with Yog from the beginning.
I also never got frustrated by Lotus Field. I think itâs a great card, and Iâm glad they printed it at 1 influence. It does still give me headaches occasionally as an Anarch, but thatâs fine. Iâm a fan of cards that force you to change your angle of attack. Being adaptable is a fun part of Netrunner for me, which is why I think Iâm okay with cards like Yog and Lotus Field.
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Gyri + the twins, biotech rush. Yes