What's up with Criminal?

Is this a hint about your build? :slight_smile:

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I hear ya! I’m on Stealth Andy and it’s crushing. Has game against all comers, I’m finding. Especially HB!

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I ain’t sayin :smiley:

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Stealth Andy or stealth hayley is where I am looking at right now for store champs, but for us aussies it’s a while before then. That being said the next few packs should actually provide some dece tools for crims so that might push Andy over the edge. Hayley’s main selling point for me is the space for clot and clone chips. FA is still a pain in the a***

Been messing around a bit with Leela in a post MWL world. I think she came out on top in the faction, and is probably the best runner equipped to deal with NEH without having too bad of a matchup elsewhere. This is my build so far, but I do intend to try @Cerberus’s third RDI over Zu which might be better than Zu. It’s probably a good sign that, as I was about to make this post, I looked a bit more closely at Dave’s list and it’s almost card-for-card with mine aside from the absence of Zu, despite this, I guess I’ve wrote the post now so I’ll post it anyway.

Either way, the way the meta is shaping up post MWL it seems like Leela will be a contender.

MWLeela (45 cards)

Leela Patel: Trained Pragmatist

Event (17)
3 Account Siphon
3 Dirty Laundry
1 Emergency Shutdown
2 Inside Job
2 Legwork
3 Special Order
3 Sure Gamble

Hardware (6)
3 Desperado
1 Plascrete Carapace
2 R&D Interface

Resource (12)
2 Bank Job
3 Daily Casts
2 Drug Dealer
2 Kati Jones
2 Security Testing
1 Utopia Shard

Icebreaker (9)
2 Corroder
3 Faerie
1 Femme Fatale
1 Mimic
1 Passport
1 ZU.13 Key Master

Program (1)
1 Sneakdoor Beta

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3 R&DI is something I’m pretty convinced on, but I’m interested to see if you come to the same conclusion. Worryingly Peacock isn’t that bad currently compared to Zu for a lot of common ice.

Drug Dealer is sometimes great and sometimes I’d rather have Visage, that may be linked with the times I should and shouldn’t be playing it though. Have you tested Visage, as I think it’s worth it as a comparison?

I agree that in an NEH popular MWL world Leela may be one of the best answers now there is less easy access to Clot.

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I’ve not tested Visage yet, but I am a massive believer in Drug Dealer. I am not sure Visage is really a replacement for Dealer’s effect, Visage is more of an econ card (and a slow one, at that) than a draw card and I don’t think that’s what the deck needs.

Gonna sleeve up a Peacock and RDI and see how I like this change.

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I’m curious as to what you are all doing with program trashing. Maybe it is just Jinteki.net, but I am seeing it a lot and the tough to avoid kind (Batty/Keegan/Power Shutdown). In particular with Criminal, most folks hammer Zu, knowing that we rarely have two. Maybe I’m just overreacting to the overabundance of trash oriented decks online, but I’ve gone for some more redundancy (+Peacock/Cerb at least).

Also, why no Drive By love? I generally play two, and they do a lot of work on remote upgrades and Moosh nonsense. Also, after you play one virtually everyone pre-rezzes, which is nice.

Visage and Drug dealer = a strange wyldside.

I wonder if that works.

I like Symmetrical Visage + Drug Dealer, but then I thought about it a little more and realized it is essentially two cards to do what Wyldside does by itself. It offers more flexibility and either card is good by itself (unlike Adjusted Chronotype).

If Wyldside was ā€˜you may draw 2 cards, if you do lose click’ it wouldn’t have required pancakes to be a staple in Anarch decks. I think Drugs/babies is somewhat better.

As for drugs in Leela, I think it’s a good idea, but it’s hard. It’s even more important than Reg-Anarch not to get in a money hole. @Cerberus has done really well clicking for cards in criminal. He’s also pretty special.

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It worked fine in my Faust Gabe deck. I’m not sure it’s what Leela wants. In Gabe, Visage offset Drug Dealer’s cost while helping me Faust up, but then again I had ready uses for excess cards. I don’t know if that’d be the case here.

Faust Gabe is a lot more OK about being broke, especially when that money is feeding him cards, than Leela with regular breakers is.

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I’ve tried Endless Waltz post-MWL with 2 RDi, and the third has been sorely missed so far. I have yet to install Peacock or chafe much for want of Zu.

Thanks… I think?

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I think you’ve been consistently the best Criminal player in the UK for a couple of years. Maybe the best Runner player. Most people can’t make the blue cards work any more.

I think your making peace with the fact you need to click for cards, and knowing when it’s appropriate to do so is a big contributing factor.

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Yeah, RDI is significantly better in Leela than in any other crim, I find. Having that option to deny the corp a score from a remote you can’t get into - by hitting R&D and bouncing the agenda if you steal - is super important, and wins a lot of games.

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man I wish I could stop sucking at playing Leela. Feels weird to play a criminal runner deck where I don’t just run everything all the time…definitely seems to be in a good place for the most part, though not sure how it actually fares against post MWL foodcoats, and the likely mild influx of blue sun and RP decks? Maybe I’ll just wait until Rebirth :stuck_out_tongue:

Been facing lots of Batty decks. Not good when the breakers go down!

Drug dealer has been ā€˜okqy’ but having multiples hurts. Probably will sub out for Visage or (*gasp) FIS. Needs moar draw.

I love me some FIS when played well, but it’s not the same slot as DD or Baby Face. Because of its secondary effects, you have to use it as pressure, not econ. Is Earthrise too pricey to go in that slot?

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