Originally published at: Whispers in Nalubaale Community Review and Meta Predictions (Runner) - StimHack
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Thanks for putting the text into the forum post. For whatever reason my firewall lets me see the stimhack forums, but not the main page.
I also think the Contaminate/Gravedigger synergy is real. Turns that go:
Click 1, contaminate my empty gravedigger
Clicks 2-4, use it.
Are basically makerās eye turns. I think thereās real potential there.
Makerās Eye, if it was also a Quad event, and required you to later run Archives.
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Somewhere between Makerās Eye and DLR, both of which are good cards. I donāt think Iād include Contaminate just for that interaction, but if contaminate had 3+ targets in a deck and that was one of them Iād be happy. Kinda like how I have Dedication Ceremony in SSO to make my City Works hard to steal, but if I use it on Hortum to lock out Aumakua, Iām pretty content.
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Iām pretty sure they just figured out how to divide up the data packs in Kitara, then said,
āokay, release them in order from crappiest to dopest.ā -Michael Boggs
This pack is nuts. I think the reviewers are slightly underestimating the virus package here, but it is hard to evaluate the power level of such a synergy-reliant deck. I also think Compile will be deceivingly effective, especially if shapers get some econ back so they can afford to break stuff with the program they pulled up.
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They may be, but I must sayā¦ in my initial building and testing, itās just so slow. Without Wyldecakes and the fact that you donāt actually want to bin your programs (i.e. No DeJa Vu, so Inject is not exactly the best choice), draw is more of a problem in that deck than in almost any other anarch. And without draw, good luck getting set up.
Iāve been toying with a Second Coming of the Can oā Whupass deck, that uses SMC to speed it up, but Iām not finding the right mix, yet.
I also found this to be true. So much of my time was spent trying to fit money into the deck that I ended up with basically just some Iāve Had Worse and Earthrise Hotels. The rest of the time Iād have to be clicking for cards.
Sorry but I didnāt understand: is the Compile/Femme Fatale interaction working with the Ice currently being encountered?
No, Compile + Femme doesnāt work how you want it to. Compile triggers on encounter, so then you fetch your Femme. Femme then works on encounter, but youāve already passed that trigger. You could Femme a different piece of ice, of course (maybe that innermost Tollbooth youāll hit after the current ice).
Itās similar to Supplier rulings in the past, if youāre familiar. If you install a Daily Casts with The Supplier, you donāt get the 2 creds off DC immediately because it wasnāt active at the moment your turn began.
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Thanks a lot for the clarification!
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As someone who actually played Noise Mill, using Progenitor+Gravedigger+Virus Breeding Groundā¦ Iām not seeing anything that really gets me excited to try it. The draw is the issue. Currently Iāve been having the most success with Sunny if I want to play NetInstaller. Iāll still put together a Virus deck but it probably wonāt be based around Gravedigger. (Hivemind+Chakana spam looks much more appetizing.)
Draw and actually getting into servers are the issues that none of the current viruses really solve.
RE: Compileā¦
I didnāt even notice that it pulls from Heap when I put in my review. Iām fairly certain this card is bonkers, and the only thing that can hold it back is that the Bottom Of Your Deck is the least-accessible place in Netrunner, besides āRemoved From The Gameāā¦ Of note is that you donāt have to fetch an icebreaker with Compile, which can conceivably open up silly Brahman combos. Compile into an SMC is probably one of the least-efficient things you can do, but it does workā¦ Iām intrigued!
Having tried it out a bit more, Iām finding that Iām running too much to make any use of Gravedigger. Between Freedom, (multiple) Imp(s), and normal trashing I can churn through cards in all four clicks on either RnD or HQ in any ice-lite corp (and even some bigger ice suites due to Trypano). That said, there are times when I could have pulled it out with SMC and didnāt because I wanted to run, and chose a different optionā¦ maybe I should just try it and see if it has legs instead of succumbing to my desire to run for all those virus tokens I get for a successful run.
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Is it weird that I consider that a good thing? 