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7-point CI shutdown puzzle thread

For what it’s worth, I haven’t played against a deck without Vamp today yet. Anyone know why that could be? :eyeglasses:

All Whizz has to do is play a vamp and not run until he finds it

lol anarch

That’s why I put the reuse (not that you always find it first, but if you do, you win)

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Shit Ben it’s so hard,I can’t solve this,just go back and slot my CBI raid.

Could you run through the basics as to what things you look for in general and your thought process from there, to arrive at go/no-go for the combo, sort of an algorithm?

I’ve seen on stream when Dan talks about number of installs etc. I imaginge that there are some basic things that need to be fulfilled before you start thinking about if it is possible. Never got into trying to figure it out, but would be fun to start :slight_smile:

EDIT: Looked at the decklist, good place to start, though in case you have anything to add, please do :slight_smile:

I started on easy mode trying to do Puzzle #1 with no Clot. I can do it, but it still takes me 11c with one flex slot left in my second pile (I only make 2 piles in this one). Seeing that it can be done through one Clot for 8 - 11c was somewhat disheartening. :confused:

Also annoying is that you can’t spoiler preformatted text, so my tidy table of actions, clicks, etc can’t just be copied/pasted into the post.

Edit: For these 2 puzzles you only have 1 CVS in your decklist! 2x CVS is easy mode.

Puzzle #5 The runner has a sacrificial construct, but only 1 clone/SMC. Purge twice, but be ready to do both purges before scoring your EC. (Intermediate)

Puzzle #6 Win through double clot AND sacrificial construct! (Hard)

Careful that the runner can choose whether to use saccon during the first score or during the last 2 scores. Here’s a very small hint: Try solving it first with 3x AD in hand instead of 3x SfK.

5 actually came up in a game just now; 6 is contrived. I think the credit total of 5 might be improvable.

[quote=“Solution for 5”]Biotic ($4, ****)
Mirror JJE ($5, ***)
PS ($6, **)
AD -> SFSS(EC), biotic, interns jackson ($11, ***)
AD -> SFSS(EC), biotic, interns CVS ($16, ****)
Use CVS & triple click purge ($19, *)
(if the runner doesn’t bring clot now,
you can trivially delay that step to the end)
Take clicks ($19, ****)
AD -> Mirror VF, SFSS(GFI), RO kaguya ($22, ***)
Triple kaguya
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[quote=“Solution for 6”]Biotic ($4, ****)
Mirror JJE ($5, ***)
PS ($6, **)
AD -> SFSS(EC), biotic, reclam AD ($12, ***)
AD -> SFSS(EC), biotic, interns CVS ($17, ****)
Use CVS, does runner saccon? ($20, ****)
if yes do (1) else do (2)
(1)
Triple click purge ($20, *)
Score take clicks ($20, ****)
Mirror JVF ($21, ***)
AD -> Interns CVS, SFSS(GFI), sublim ($21, ***) (sublim cred counts b/c CVS)
Triple kaguya, CVS, win ($24)
(2)
Score take clicks ($20, *******)
Mirror JVF ($21, ******)
AD -> Interns CVS, SFSS(GFI), sublim ($21, ******)
Triple kaguya, CVS (runner saccons now) ($24, ***)
Triple click purge, win
[/quote]

Finally cracked Puzzle #1 with 1 Clot, but it took me all 19 credits. Oof.

Biotic, install Jackson, Archived AD, Shutdown ($5, *)
AD -> Mirrormorph (Jackson, EC, GFI), Subliminal, Biotic ($9, ***)
Interns CVS ($9, *)
AD -> Interns (Jackson), SfSS (GFI), Biotic ($15, **)
AD -> Interns (PV), SfSS (EC), SfSS (EC), ($16, *)
Purge + score EC ($19, ***)
Kaguya x3 (PV + GFI)

Now I can look at the solutions!

Edit: Huh, I was originally going along the same lines as @hhooo, but I kept getting to the end one click short of the last install. I’m going to have to work through it.

Edit 2: Oh, there it is! The trick is in the second pile. Effectively makes a click. Very nice.

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Puzzle #5

Biotic (18/4)
Shutdown (17/3)
SfMM(Jackson, Jackson, EC) (16/2)
AD ->Rec Order(CVS), SfSS(EC), Subliminal (15/2)
AD ->SfMM(CVS, CVS, Food), SfSS(EC), Interns(Jackson) (13/1)
Pop CVS, Pop CVS, Score EC, take clicks. (7/4)
AD ->Interns(PV), Rec Order(SfK), SfSS(Food) (5/3)
Kaguya x3 (win)

When was that edit about only 1x CVS? Why are we playing with intentionally bad decks here :sweet_potato:

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Puzzle #7 Beat Leela. (Intermediate) Credit to @jdeng for the technique.

Puzzle #8 Beat Leela. (Tricky?) @jdeng again.

[quote=“Solution 7”]Shutdown ($1 spent, ** clicks remain)
Mirror JJE ($2, *)
AD -> interns jackson, biotic, reclam AD ($8, **)
AD -> SFSS(EC), SFSS(EC), sublim ($8, **)
Rez jackson, score take clicks ($8, *** **)
Install 2nd EC ($8, *** *)
AD -> SFSS(EC2), SFSS(EC2), reclam SFSS ($10, ***)
Score take clicks ($10, *** ***)
Install GFI ($10, *** **)
SFSS SFSS SFK from hand
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[quote=“Solution 8”]Biotic ($4, ****)
Shutdown ($5, ***)
Mirror JJE ($6, **)
AD -> interns jackson, biotic, reclam AD ($12, ***)
AD -> SFSS(EC), SFSS(EC), interns 2nd EC ($13, **)
Rez jackson, score take clicks ($13, *** **)
Install 2nd EC that just got bounced ($13, *** *)
AD -> SFSS(EC2), SFSS(EC2), reclam SFSS ($15, ***)
Score take clicks ($15, *** ***)
Install GFI ($15, *** **)
SFSS SFSS SFK from hand
[/quote]

Whoops, forgot I changed my decklist between the OP and this puzzle. Can you do it with only 1 CVS in the deck?

Edit was after your post. Had forgotten otherwise. I don’t know why I went back down to 1… but DO THE PUZZLE! :wink:

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Puzzle #2 (one Clot)

Edit: never mind, forgot the Kaguyas weren’t in HQ! Need to revise.

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Puzzle #2
Normal mode: 1 clot
HQ: shutdown AD jackson jackson jackson EC PV biotic SfSS mirrormorph

Biotic, Mirrormorph (Jackson x2, EC), Shutdown ($5, **)
AD -> Interns (CVS), Reclamation (AD), Biotic ($10, ***)
AD -> Mirrormorph (Jackson, PV), SfSS (EC), Biotic ($15, ****)
SfSS (EC), purge, score, make clicks ($18, ****)
AD -> Interns (GFI), SfSS (GFI), Reclamation (Kaguya) ($19, ***)
Kaguya x3 (GFI, PV)

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correct me if i’m wrong, but I think you can beat leela in #8 without ever giving her ability an eligible target with as little as 10 credits. combos are usually pretty easy with jackson/jackson/ec


biotic ($4, ****)
sfmm jackson, jackson, ec ($5, ***)
shutdown ($6, **)
ad -> sfss, sfss, reclamation order ($8, *)
rez second jackson, score ec, click it 3x ($8, ****)
install food ($8, ***)
ad -> interns rez jackson, sfss, sfss ($9, **)
kaguya from hand ($9, *)
score food ($9, *)
ad -> interns 3/2, sfss, kaguya ($10)

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Nice, biotic from hand allowing EC score after only 1 pile. That’s a new tactic for me.

If you have a vitruvius in hand instead of food, you don’t even need the SFK in hand. Just swap the order, SFSS it twice and use the vitru counter to get it. (edit: spoilered that; I think I’ll make it a puzzle)

Puzzle #3 got spendy.
Normal mode: 1 clot
HQ: shutdown AD jackson jackson jackson EC PV biotic SfSS

Edit: whoops, missed a Reclamation. Fixing… fixed.

Biotic, Shutdown ($5, ***)
Install Jackson ($5, **)
Install Jackson ($5, *) (blech! but I guess it works.)
AD -> Mirrormorph (Jackson, EC, PV), Reclamation (AD), Biotic ($12, **)
AD -> Interns (CVS), SfSS (EC), Biotic ($17, ***)
SfSS (EC), purge, score, make clicks ($20, ****)
AD -> Interns (GFI), SfSS (GFI), Reclamation (Kaguya) ($22, ***)
Kaguya x3 (GFI, PV)

Inadvertently spoiled Puzzle #4 intermediate after solving the easy one. Shouldn’t step 4 in the intermediate solution be to Interns a JH from Archives, since you already used SfMM to play the one on your hand? Minor detail.

Edit: This one doesn’t work.

Puzzle #5
1 CVS in deck, purge twice before scoring EC (Sac Con + live Clot)
HQ: AD AD AD shutdown Jackson Jackson EC PV GFI Biotic mirrormorph mirrormorph SfSS

Biotic, Shutdown ($5, ***)
Mirrormorph (Jackson Jackson EC) ($6, **)
AD -> Interns (CVS), Biotic, Subliminal ($10, ***)
AD -> Interns (Jackson), SfSS (EC), Biotic ($15, ****)
SfSS (EC) ($14, **)
Purge Sac Con ($14, **)
Mirrormorph (PV, GFI) ($15, *)
AD -> Interns (CVS), SfSS (GFI), Biotic ($20, **)
Purge Clot, score EC, make clicks ($23, ****)
Kaguya x3

Yes, bit of a parse ambiguity. I meant play the interns from your hand to get jackson from archives.

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You didn’t reclamate your kaguyas here. And your credit totals are a bit off around steps 5-6. Also you dropped your subliminal click on the floor from pile 1 – you seem to have 2 flex clicks!

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Puzzle #9: Beat leela. She just siphoned you down to 4 thinking there’s no way. Thanks @josh01.

[quote=“Solution 9”]Mirror JJE ($1, **)
PS ($2, *)
AD -> SFSS SFSS sublim ($2, *)
Score take clicks ($2, ****)
Install PV ($2, ***)
AD -> interns jackson, SFSS SFSS ($3, **)
Vitru counter for AD ($3, **)
AD -> interns GFI, SFSS SFSS ($4, *)
SFK GFI
Works same if you got the 3rd AD already but not the SFK.
[/quote]

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