[Blue Sun] Bootcamp Glacier

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I was running a slightly different build with a different agenda mix, more economy, and more ITD. Because… being a jerk…

I feel the agenda mix wasn’t right and that’s something I want to play with, but thought the extra economy was right as I was getting too many slow starts without it. @Mendax is right, 3 Oaktown is great.

Good deck…

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Oaktown feels like Hostile Takeover for glacier. Advance your gameplan, get agendas in the safest place possible, and gain credits all at the same time.

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It’s not just for glacier, my Grail/Shutdown rush deck loves it dearly too.

It’s kind of sad that this one card is probably better than the entirety of Order and Chaos for non-murder Weyland builds.

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Hell, it’s better than Order and Chaos for my murdery Weyland build.

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Tried one ITD game against PPVP Kate and it works really well. :smile:
May I ask how do you find that ITD match up against Anarchs ? Do you still slowly build it or just don’t play it at all because of david?

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If Anarchs don’t play at least 2 David, then ITD is hell.

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I find that it’s rare for an ITD deck to have a spot where they even want to consider risking it. If you click ITD 5+ times and it gets trashed because of a david, you basically insta-lose on tempo.

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There are sometimes in that deck where even just getting them to use a david and a bunch of credits is often enough to generate a clear scoring window.

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Hive and/or stacked multiple sub ice also goes a long way to protecting ITD from David.
But as Mendax said, runners will often pay a lot of credits to kill ITD which creates scoring windows.

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You generally have to build 2 remotes, right? That’s my big concern about IT department.

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Yeah this. In my case, it was an Ash + ITD server protected by a 3-sub Hive and Lotus Field. Ya thanks, I’ll go pressure somewhere else. Eventually I won, but it just takes so long if you don’t want to give up a score window. If he scored another agenda, the Hive would’ve been worthless and then I could go trash it earlier. But that didn’t happen. I guess this is all rare in a tournament with time limits though.

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People who have this concern are really misunderstanding the nature of the card. Sure, you have to build a 2nd remote, eventually, but at that point, your opponent is likely 100% locked out of the game. Don’t think about building a second remote. Think of ITD as having a clause that says “when it has 20 counters on it, you win the game” in the matchups where it’s good. Building the second remote is just a formality.

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Very much this. Also, depending on the ice and the matchup, you can get away with a 1-2 ice server. I tend to like Ashigaru in my builds for a scoring server due to its immunity to D4V1D

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Here are my thoughts on ITD and why it’s so superior to Blacklist in MOST Bootcamp decks.

  1. People panic when they see it, they give you a ton of information in this regard. Also, it taxes 4 credits to trash, which is a double win.
  2. This deck type operates fine with a 2nd remote, in fact, sometimes it’s advantageous to have two when you are running an econ remote and a scoring remote. With the side benefit of putting in 2 game winning agendas if you don’t get the ITD rolling. Install Atlas, install and A an NAPD. Good luck getting both.
  3. The opponents D4V1D is the main enemy, so be smart about how you build those remotes. You have ways to deal with D4V1D counters with Tollbooth, etc. In fact, the ITD is another way to tax out the counters - which is your goal.
  4. Always go to war with your opponents money and D4V1D, much like a runners goal becomes get that Neisei token burned in an RP matchup, attack your channel to victory.
  5. Without anybody playing criminal, the equally awful card to deal with is inside job, but we don’t see much of those anymore, so dealing with D4V1D isn’t so bad.
  6. Most importantly, as Dan said, once you have a pile of counters and they have no way of dealing with it, it’s game over. They can maybe save up for 10 turns and get a glory run, but it won’t land on an Ash server, and it will only access a handful of cards on R&D if they are lucky.
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ITD fixes a big hole in the deck where if you get a bad start and a shaper or crim goes up 4-0 (or worse 5-0) it gives you a way to break the remote lock without sacrificing a NAPD like you normally have to.

However, david. After getting creamed by a desperado valencia player in cambridge (I went down 4 pts on early random accesses then tried the above strategy), I did some more testing of that matchup and it’s basically impossible to make the lock. You pretty much need 3 multi-sub ice to be safe from david (datapike doesn’t even count since they can just pay 2), and if you can’t assemble that quickly then your 8-10 clicks for their 1 clone chip or whatever is not a good trade.

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I feel like the Lotus Field becomes even more important in that matchup. I know it’s best case scenario with a 1 of in the deck, but a Curtain Wall into Lotus Field server is going to be hard and/or expensive for Anarch to tackle even without the ITD at the bottom. That being said, Shaper with a D4V1D just hardcore makes you sad

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Maybe Orion can be back to the deck instead of wormhole?

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I’m currently testing it.

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Any room for Spiderweb as well? I like 3 ETRs on a Barrier; 2 strength is almost irrelevant with ITD.

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Spiderweb and Contract Killer are two of the best Weyland cards in a while.

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