Hayley + Chameleon works great! Just not with London Library
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Tons of near-tier fun
Hayley + Chameleon works great! Just not with London Library
The Novelist Ā· NetrunnerDB or Cachemeleon 2.0 Ā· NetrunnerDB
Tons of near-tier fun
āgreatā
great fun!
Iāll toss my NBN Sol deck in here. It kinda works, if the runner doesnāt apply early pressure.
The whole deck tries to combo with other cards in the deck, but in the end itās more of a house of cards that depends on Surveillance Sweep, which costs 2c on every steal. 2c is a lot in the early game.
iāve tried to fit into a core of the following cards:
ICE Analyzer
Forged Activation Orders
and derez effects like Emergency Shutdown or Crescentus
also things that help when you run, like Desperado, Datasucker, and even DaVinci
i tried to put something together in Hayley, in various Criminal builds (Ken, Leela, Andromeda) and even Adam and Sunny (they definitely have the spare MU for it)
nothing ended up feeling right, and Collective Consciousness was always one of the first things to go
the Most Wanted List makes this even more difficult, like Clone Chips for extra Crescentuses, but it also helped me to open up to alternative choices, such as Doppelganger (now half the influence of Desperado)
Edward Kim. Pretty much.
Heās great against kill decks where you can get a lock on HQ or R&D; itās hard to get a kill combo if youāre losing an operation each turn.
Against foodcoats though, his identity might as well be blank
I find that Noise can usually disrupt kill combos out of R&D with his ability or Imp, and Imp combo cards out of HQ. Noise also adds the mill threat to the game, that is valuable in most matchups.
Iāll agree that Edward Kim is probably better than noise against kill decks (particularly low-ICE kill decks), but Noise is better in most other match-ups, and more consistently good across the field, particularly in a FoodCoats-heavy meta as we have now.
iāve been mulling over Employee Strike for a month now. I pretty much only play anarch and thereās just so many thing you can or need to have in one stinking deck finding room for 3 of these just kills me. Thereās going to be lots āoā BS, RP, ETF, and NeH this store champs too.
admittedly however I am not āseeingā runner right now though
Can I just say brain damage? Do I need a list of cards if I say this?
Iāve had some success with brain damage with a couple different Cybernetics decks:
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/kyC7d8nZRC7cu2kid/
This one is focused on rushing out agendas and punishing aggression with Batty + gold/fenris.
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/8ktcfkBx6cfbrvxu8/
This one operates off of xanatosā gambit and wins by fast-advancing 3/2s with 4-click turns.
Iām going to throw in some defective brainchips and Viktor 2.0 to make it worse
Iāve tested both and come up with these decklists That should tell you plenty about the quality of Defective Brainchips.
It puts hair on your chest to kill someone with the ultimate drip brain damage
Honestly, Eddie is looking a lot better after MWL. If I were to go to a tournament and not suspect much HB (or asset spam tier2 decks) I would probably directly swap my Whizzard list into Ed Kim. Almost all of your NBN match-ups get much better, along with the BS Glacier match-up. RPās stuff is cheap enough to trash when you need it.
Another card Iāll add to this thread is Grifter. Adore everything about the card, and I used to play it casually. Iāve yet to play Adam but I know when I finally do Iāll be compulsed to play Grifter in my first iteration.
How does a HB brain damage deck work conceptually? Like NBN/Weyland kill is āoutmoney and/or tag them, murder them with Scorch or Punitiveā, Jinteki kill is packing a bunch of sources of drip net damage into as small a space as possible to drain their handsize for a Ronin or EMP, but Haas brain damage is practically all on ice, and HBās thing is ice that the runner can wriggle out of. The only non-ice brain damage HB has is Ryon Knight (okay i guess) and Overwriter (good if it lands but unreliable); and all their brain damage ice can be clicked through except Fenris and I guess the forthcoming Brainstorm
L4J ideas? I was thinking the same thing, they should be close to basically a direct swap, meta dependent. Although something tells me HQ multi-access is a little more important for Kim, whereas Whizzard will probably want better remote access i.e. Stimhack Atman n stuff.
My two thoughts are:
Marcus Batty is potentially scary as hell in HB and solves a lot of the āitās only on the iceā issues.
I think you generally donāt win by brain damage directly because itās already so strong, rather you win because the threat of brain damage or the cost of brain damage over time gives you the win (which is in line with HBās pay now so we win later stuff like click through ice). I might just let a net damage routine fire if iāve got the cards for it. Iām going to think VERY long about letting brain damage routines fire (and the face checking is brutal).
Iām a grifter aficionado too, as well as an adam one. I feel like its pretty trappy there because youāll be tempted to have the old 2 click turn a lot. It does make for a nice ghetto desperado though. When I run it seriously, I put it in gabe so you can at least feint to get them and the gabe money to keep them alive for a turn while you ensure you make a run.
Its nice to stack with sectesting, bank job, and dirty laundry. Iām a pretty big fan. Wait till you add it to a supplier deck XD
I tried making an advancable ICE deck that ran space camp, susano-no-mikoto, and matrix analyzer. The goal was to keep the matrix analyzers out front to put advancement tokens in space ice to make them cheaper to rez while using susano-no-mikoto to send the runner to archives to get space camp tokens.
Spoilers: Advanceable ice is still bad and matrix analyzer is terrible against nexus kate with power tap.
At least I learned how amazing it is to bait a runner in to running my scoring server with mark yale, trash an atman 5 with wormhole (thanks to nebula), and then, just as they break the last piece of ice, rez mark yale to sell six advancement tokens+himself for a gain of about 20 credits. And then put an agenda in the server next turn because the runner is too broke to run it again.