but this isn’t prison, exactly the opposite. You give corp all space to set up and see if he can beat you before you beat him. In vamp-dlr-cheese, vamp is the only prison card, the only one preventing him to execute his intended gameplan.
as for ways to deal with the cheese, what’s the plan against jackson in a server? I’ve played against a couple of decks that barely manage to get to the 17 agendas in r&d before they were forced to go, and jackson seriously messes with that math.
Would Sync have any game against this deck? Cheaper to trash the resources (esp when protected by Fall Guys), and generally be able to keep the runner’s resource spam levels lower, if Sync is being aggressive trying to tag the runner (maybe Breaking News/Big Brother). I think Sync should play something like 2 Scorch 2 Traffic Accident, so if the runner is self-tagging, it’s not inconceivable that Sync can afford to trash Paparazzi and then land a scorch kill?
I’m always okay with Blackmailing into a Jackson instead of an agenda. Either it’s a free Jackson trash, or they pop him and agenda density in R&D goes up, and they have that much less protection.
Haven’t tested against Sync, but I’m thinking that DLR can avoid getting tagged until later, checking remotes and building resources. I don’t know if it’s better than just playing hate cards in another deck.
Thoughts on Leela as an ID for this archetype? She forces the corp to slow down, which should help against decks that try to rush out before you’re set up. And late game, an installed Hades Shard with an agenda in archives will shut down a score attempt harder than Clot.
Pretty badly for Val
I’ve played it, it works to some extent, having access to IJ is really good.
I was actually thinking about taking out Siphon from the Val build for a few IJ and tossing in Vamp instead.
My thoughts were that Vamp lets you take more creds, and IJ puts even more pressure on the remote.
The counter thoughts are that DDoS might do the same thing, if the server isn’t deep, and Vamp requires me to actually make some money.
So a combination of headlock economy (liberated + pancakes combo?) and dlr spam? I assume you weren’t buying drugs if you’re vamping.
I’ve two versions : One with headlock econ (liberated, kati, hotel, cast and career fair + lucky find) and another one with siphon/drugs. Both play vamp.
Most of the time, siphoning isn’t enough. You really want to follow it up with a vamp to put the corp on pressure.
Ah, the ol’ “screw you” post-siphon vamp. Using their own money to drain them of the rest.
Lists?
I won all games in a GNK tournament yesterday with the following list. I played against 2x Butchershop, 1x Blue Sun, 1x EtF. I will provably drop one Vamp for one Deja-Vu and one Queen’s Gambit for another Kati Jones.
Valencia Estevez: The Angel of Cayambe
Event (12)
2x Account Siphon ••••• •••
3x Blackmail
3x Inject
2x Queen’s Gambit
2x Vamp
Resource (35)
3x Daily Casts
3x Data Leak Reversal
3x Drug Dealer •••
3x Fall Guy •••
1x Hades Shard •
3x Joshua B.
1x Kati Jones
3x Off-Campus Apartment
3x Paparazzi
3x Same Old Thing
3x Scrubber
3x Street Peddler
3x Wireless Net Pavilion
Icebreaker (3)
3x Faust
15 influence spent (max 15)
50 cards (min 50)
Cards up to The Universe of Tomorrow
Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.
I went 3-1 in a 14-person tournament with the following list (it was a special tournament, only Anarch and Jinteki IDs were allowed). I played against 2 Chronos Project, RP w/ team sponsorship, and a Nisei Division Scorch deck.
In testing I found the credit denial aspect strong so I cut drug dealers and hades shard for the 3rd siphon, and went to 3 vamps. Given that configuration I should have also cut the apartments. They didn’t do enough. I think Earthrise would have been useful. At that point I probably cut John, not sure what for though. I didn’t end up needing the Tropes, but I was scared of facing PE due to the Jinteki-only field.
DLR Val
Valencia Estevez: The Angel of Cayambe
Event (17)
3x Account Siphon ••••• ••••• ••
3x Blackmail
3x I’ve Had Worse
3x Inject
2x Queen’s Gambit
3x Vamp
Resource (28)
3x Daily Casts
3x Data Leak Reversal
3x Fall Guy •••
1x John Masanori
3x Joshua B.
3x Off-Campus Apartment
3x Same Old Thing
3x Scrubber
3x Street Peddler
3x Wireless Net Pavilion
Icebreaker (3)
3x Faust
Program (2)
2x Trope
15 influence spent (max 15)
50 cards (min 50)
Cards up to The Universe of Tomorrow
Decklist published on http://netrunnerdb.com.
I like how now there’s a DLR thread, we can all collectively try to break netrunner.
Curious as to which was the loss.
One of the Chronos Project was also Scorch. I didn’t see it coming so I made a run to install DLR and ended my turn with 3 cards. Got single Scorched. It was just a misplay, I didn’t need to install DLR that turn or anything.
Hey, who NEEDS to install DLR? Personally, I think it’s better to get the engine going asap, if you’re going to get scorched, you get scorched
Can someone explain to me why Val is the Anarch of choice for DLR spam decks? It seems like there’s a lot of components to set up and I don’t see how bad pub is better than a 45 card deck but I guess I’m missing something. Is it just the ability to blackmail?
Yes, just blackmail. Anarch has so much draw it helps negate the 50 card deck size. Without blackmail, all of the DLR decks would be the same tier just different flavors.
