CI Fund as worst card… Uh have you read Leviathan? Have you ever played Wrym outside of a core deck?
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Of course Noise is worthless if the card pool has no viruses, but so is EtF if the card pool is only operations 
Are there any cards played a lot with Noise but unplayed in other IDs?
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You won’t be playing assets with it, forget about those cards.
Whatever ID in the world says hello.
Take any 2 same faction decks, switch IDs and see if it’s true ?
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Honestly, with most actual good IDs this is actually just fine. You can switch Palana with RP and things go pretty alright, and same vice versa. Same with Kate and Hayley (for the most part), as well as with Andy and Leela. Heck, the only reason Dumblefork is in Whizzard is because asset-spam is everywhere. The deck is just as good in almost any other red ID; it was even originally conceived in Eddy Kim. So sure, you might build around the ID a little bit, but the good IDs remain good, even without completely optimal cards.
I honestly can’t say the same with Builder of Nations and all the random-ass cards people are saying should be thrown into it. Matrix Analyzer and Space Camp? Really, dudes.
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Yeah, you are right, I always think “Damn, Genomics is so bad because it requires the support of Hostile Infrastructure!”, “It’s even worse than Gagarin which needs the support of Mumbad City Hall or SoL, that needs the support of Targeted Marketing”. 
Ultimtely, it’s a nice soundbite but it doesn’t have a big bearing in practice. A good deck will be good, irrespective of how much “support” it needs. I think this way of thinking only leads to being dimissive. I see it the opposite way which is: What cards does this identity allow me to work with? I think that’s much more interesting.
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It’s a harsh realm we all live in, dismissive towards netrunner cards puts wins on the table
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this is more of an argument for the deck being versatile enough that any ID can do well with it or that a particular ID is similarly more versatile. but you even mention how ‘for the most part’ and so is not absolute
some IDs and decks are more narrowed in their focus, and there are many IDs with very obviously-designed support cards, but just because you can’t swap those IDs around, doesn’t mean they aren’t good IDs or good decks
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What dimissal and what wins?
People are dimissing here “Identities that need support” like Gagarin, Genomics and Sol. Aren’t those IDs winning IDs? Or do they “not count” as “Decent IDs”?
These are sound bites, not actual strategical insight, IMHO.
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Let’s not forget the rest of my post. Scroll back up and read the whole thing if you missed it.
First off, let’s not conflate decks and IDs. They are not the same. IG is a decent ID that has a good deck right now by virtue of a few cards, not by virtue of its ID. Before I am jumped on for this, I do think it is possible to analyze IDs in a vacuum, to some extent. I realize that the card pool fluctuates, and that means certain IDs will be more or less viable at certain times; however, IG is not as good as ETF or NEH, despite the fact that Bio-Ethics (the deck) is as good or better than ETF Glacier or NBN Fastro right now.
Nowhere did I say that decent decks and IDs can’t win games. They can and will, but this doesn’t give them a spot at the ‘adult table.’ Sol isn’t in the same strata as NEH; I consider that a fact, yes. IG isn’t in the same strata as Palana or even RP IMO; Iain can’t sit with Andy or Leela; neither can Jesminder sit with Kate or Hayley, nor Reina with MaxX.
This is all a crude analogy to say: good IDs largely transcend the card pool and the need for ‘support.’
IMO
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I know what you mean, but I can’t help but think it’s a bit silly.
[Identity] is not as good as other identities, even though it enables decks that are every bit as good if not better as the decks enabled by those other, better identities._
And yet, it makes sense. Palana and EtF will be good as long as the game works normally. But the moment Shock! and Hostile Infrastructure dissapear from the card pool Genomics will suffer. In this way, it could be argued that Genomics is weaker than Palana, which is what I think you are getting at.
It also leads to all sort of weirdness. Is Whizzard a good or a bad identity? He was unplayable for years and now he’s great. Was RP always great, or is it a decent card “supported” by Sundew? Is SoL just the identity or also News Hound?
I described this in an article as external vs internal balance. Internal is the interaction between the card and the game’s mechanics. External is the interaction between a card and other cards. A card’s power is a mixture of both.
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So my thoughts during a long hike yesterday:
Builder of Nations is easily the most damage potential we’ve seen in a single card in a long time. That it’s an ID to boot is scary.
If nothing else, it gives it’s own deck a natural resilience to IHW, which is nice. Firmware Upgrades makes everything scary.
Again, how much damage does it need to do? If it lands 5-ish damage I’m probably okay with that.
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I guess I’m only really concerned with the damage potential of a card if that damage is useful. I’m worried that this damage isn’t. I obviously don’t know, as I don’t 100% know the card pool on release and haven’t played around with it. I suppose I’m mostly worried because, traditionally, damage that the runner chooses to take hasn’t usually been impactful, and it’s hard for me to think of reasonable scenarios to make it impactful in Weyland – especially being limited down to 12 influence.
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I think it is meant to be a tax and it is a decent effect as a tax.
It basically means it costs faust one more card to get through a server, which is alright and can throw off math.
It also requires the runner have cards in hand in order to run at all and thus must spend at least some time rigging up.
I don’t think the id is really meant for flatline plays, it just adds an additional cost.
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So Re the new Weyland ID and Satellite Grid, can you set up kill with Komainu and the Grid? The interaction I’m hoping for would be to have Komainu encounter ability trigger first, then the 1 meat damage, then as net for their previous amount of cards resulting in a flatline if the runner face-checks it.
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Yes
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Dragging a Runner through a Mamba+Satellite Grid server sounds fun.
The influence hit still seems severe. I am hoping it is due to some forthcoming out-of-faction cards.
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Rephrase to say oppresive IDs don’t require support. Think about it, Kate, NEH, ETF, etc.
It takes three turns to make a profit, and is fragile, and requires a huge amount of investment. But yeah Leviathan is pretty dang bad. Same for Wyrm. We need to have a bad card contest, that would be fun.
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That’s what I’m thinking.