Jinteki.net discussion

Can anyone confirm/deny whether JNET can be used on Chrome OS?

So, looks like jnet is going to start collecting game statistics. @mtgred to win Worldā€™s 2016 due to unparalleled knowledge of the meta?

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Yes, it easily can.

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I would be amazed if the j.net meta was anything ike the worlds meta.

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At large, of course not. But lots of top players are starting to use it more and getting access to their deck lists and results should be informative, no?

If it tracks by username, yes, but I was assuming it was analogous to OCTGNā€™s data collection

Octgnā€™s data is pretty deanonymizable anyway, though, and after the fact you could always do ELO and figure out the good players and look at what theyā€™re doing

Mostly my comment was tongue in cheek, but I am interested in whether @mtgred is going to publish the data.

Yes, the goal is to publish stats with the global meta. I also want to build an individual player profile page with stats such as most played identities, corp and runner win %, ELO ranking, number of games played, number of games finished.

Iā€™m currently analysing the data and toying with a player rating system.

Hereā€™s a preview of what I have in mind for the stats page (1 day of data).

Global Corp win %

{ "_id" : "Corp", "count" : 2228, "won" : 1207, "lost" : 1021, "winrate" : 0.5417414721723519 }

Top 20 Corp players

{ "_id" : "MasN", "count" : 16, "won" : 14, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.875, "rating" : 0.5277777777777778 }
{ "_id" : "manvstrees", "count" : 13, "won" : 11, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.8461538461538461, "rating" : 0.48484848484848486 }
{ "_id" : "ADHiDef", "count" : 15, "won" : 11, "lost" : 4, "winrate" : 0.7333333333333333, "rating" : 0.45714285714285713 }
{ "_id" : "torlu", "count" : 23, "won" : 14, "lost" : 9, "winrate" : 0.6086956521739131, "rating" : 0.4418604651162791 }
{ "_id" : "#tili", "count" : 17, "won" : 11, "lost" : 6, "winrate" : 0.6470588235294118, "rating" : 0.43243243243243246 }
{ "_id" : "comoarch", "count" : 8, "won" : 7, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.875, "rating" : 0.42857142857142855 }
{ "_id" : "alexstevens", "count" : 8, "won" : 7, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.875, "rating" : 0.42857142857142855 }
{ "_id" : "Gatlinggoon", "count" : 13, "won" : 9, "lost" : 4, "winrate" : 0.6923076923076923, "rating" : 0.42424242424242425 }
{ "_id" : "Maxey", "count" : 6, "won" : 6, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4230769230769231 }
{ "_id" : "toberk", "count" : 6, "won" : 6, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4230769230769231 }
{ "_id" : "tefering", "count" : 6, "won" : 6, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4230769230769231 }
{ "_id" : "mtgred", "count" : 6, "won" : 6, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4230769230769231 }
{ "_id" : "hugeowl", "count" : 11, "won" : 8, "lost" : 3, "winrate" : 0.7272727272727273, "rating" : 0.41935483870967744 }
{ "_id" : "bazinga", "count" : 11, "won" : 8, "lost" : 3, "winrate" : 0.7272727272727273, "rating" : 0.41935483870967744 }
{ "_id" : "yeti", "count" : 23, "won" : 13, "lost" : 10, "winrate" : 0.5652173913043478, "rating" : 0.4186046511627907 }
{ "_id" : "TheSpeaker", "count" : 9, "won" : 7, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.7777777777777778, "rating" : 0.41379310344827586 }
{ "_id" : "SimonMoon", "count" : 14, "won" : 9, "lost" : 5, "winrate" : 0.6428571428571429, "rating" : 0.4117647058823529 }
{ "_id" : "mostlysmart", "count" : 7, "won" : 6, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.8571428571428571, "rating" : 0.4074074074074074 }
{ "_id" : "chaosjuggler", "count" : 7, "won" : 6, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.8571428571428571, "rating" : 0.4074074074074074 }
{ "_id" : "Ver", "count" : 7, "won" : 6, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.8571428571428571, "rating" : 0.4074074074074074 }

Top 20 Runner players

{ "_id" : "Lowsow", "count" : 13, "won" : 11, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.8461538461538461, "rating" : 0.48484848484848486 }
{ "_id" : "TugtetguT", "count" : 10, "won" : 9, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.9, "rating" : 0.4666666666666667 }
{ "_id" : "josh", "count" : 11, "won" : 9, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.8181818181818182, "rating" : 0.45161290322580644 }
{ "_id" : "Dheraz", "count" : 7, "won" : 7, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4444444444444444 }
{ "_id" : "guy.brush", "count" : 13, "won" : 9, "lost" : 4, "winrate" : 0.6923076923076923, "rating" : 0.42424242424242425 }
{ "_id" : "dante77", "count" : 9, "won" : 7, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.7777777777777778, "rating" : 0.41379310344827586 }
{ "_id" : "manvstrees", "count" : 14, "won" : 9, "lost" : 5, "winrate" : 0.6428571428571429, "rating" : 0.4117647058823529 }
{ "_id" : "Sydtrack", "count" : 10, "won" : 7, "lost" : 3, "winrate" : 0.7, "rating" : 0.4 }
{ "_id" : "hookgrip", "count" : 5, "won" : 5, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4 }
{ "_id" : "Ynyr3435", "count" : 5, "won" : 5, "lost" : 0, "winrate" : 1, "rating" : 0.4 }
{ "_id" : "toberk", "count" : 8, "won" : 6, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.75, "rating" : 0.39285714285714285 }
{ "_id" : "servas", "count" : 8, "won" : 6, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.75, "rating" : 0.39285714285714285 }
{ "_id" : "streatim", "count" : 8, "won" : 6, "lost" : 2, "winrate" : 0.75, "rating" : 0.39285714285714285 }
{ "_id" : "netrunnerunner", "count" : 16, "won" : 9, "lost" : 7, "winrate" : 0.5625, "rating" : 0.3888888888888889 }
{ "_id" : "quito", "count" : 11, "won" : 7, "lost" : 4, "winrate" : 0.6363636363636364, "rating" : 0.3870967741935484 }
{ "_id" : "fiveplus5is55", "count" : 11, "won" : 7, "lost" : 4, "winrate" : 0.6363636363636364, "rating" : 0.3870967741935484 }
{ "_id" : "sebn83", "count" : 6, "won" : 5, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.8333333333333334, "rating" : 0.38461538461538464 }
{ "_id" : "Drunkenphysics", "count" : 6, "won" : 5, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.8333333333333334, "rating" : 0.38461538461538464 }
{ "_id" : "Bogus", "count" : 6, "won" : 5, "lost" : 1, "winrate" : 0.8333333333333334, "rating" : 0.38461538461538464 }
{ "_id" : "mtgred", "count" : 9, "won" : 6, "lost" : 3, "winrate" : 0.6666666666666666, "rating" : 0.3793103448275862 }

Corp meta

{ "_id" : "Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future", "count" : 319, "won" : 175, "lost" : 144, "winrate" : 0.54858934169279 }
{ "_id" : "Jinteki: Personal Evolution", "count" : 221, "won" : 128, "lost" : 93, "winrate" : 0.579185520361991 }
{ "_id" : "Spark Agency: Worldswide Reach", "count" : 170, "won" : 104, "lost" : 66, "winrate" : 0.611764705882353 }
{ "_id" : "Near-Earth Hub: Broadcast Center", "count" : 161, "won" : 105, "lost" : 56, "winrate" : 0.6521739130434783 }
{ "_id" : "Blue Sun: Powering the Future", "count" : 127, "won" : 77, "lost" : 50, "winrate" : 0.6062992125984252 }
{ "_id" : "Haarpsichord Studios: Entertainment Unleashed", "count" : 124, "won" : 78, "lost" : 46, "winrate" : 0.6290322580645161 }
{ "_id" : "Industrial Genomics: Growing Solutions", "count" : 116, "won" : 65, "lost" : 51, "winrate" : 0.5603448275862069 }
{ "_id" : "SYNC: Everything, Everywhere", "count" : 94, "won" : 56, "lost" : 38, "winrate" : 0.5957446808510638 }
{ "_id" : "Titan Transnational: Investing In Your Future", "count" : 89, "won" : 39, "lost" : 50, "winrate" : 0.43820224719101125 }
{ "_id" : "Argus Security: Protection Guaranteed", "count" : 82, "won" : 48, "lost" : 34, "winrate" : 0.5853658536585366 }
{ "_id" : "Weyland Consortium: Building a Better World", "count" : 75, "won" : 29, "lost" : 46, "winrate" : 0.38666666666666666 }
{ "_id" : "Gagarin Deep Space: Expanding the Horizon", "count" : 69, "won" : 34, "lost" : 35, "winrate" : 0.4927536231884058 }
{ "_id" : "Jinteki: Replicating Perfection", "count" : 65, "won" : 39, "lost" : 26, "winrate" : 0.6 }
{ "_id" : "Cybernetics Division: Humanity Upgraded", "count" : 65, "won" : 20, "lost" : 45, "winrate" : 0.3076923076923077 }
{ "_id" : "New Angeles Sol: Your News", "count" : 62, "won" : 30, "lost" : 32, "winrate" : 0.4838709677419355 }
{ "_id" : "NBN: Making News", "count" : 56, "won" : 39, "lost" : 17, "winrate" : 0.6964285714285714 }
{ "_id" : "Chronos Protocol: Selective Mind-mapping", "count" : 47, "won" : 13, "lost" : 34, "winrate" : 0.2765957446808511 }
{ "_id" : "Haas-Bioroid: Stronger Together", "count" : 37, "won" : 15, "lost" : 22, "winrate" : 0.40540540540540543 }
{ "_id" : "Jinteki Biotech: Life Imagined", "count" : 35, "won" : 22, "lost" : 13, "winrate" : 0.6285714285714286 }
{ "_id" : "NEXT Design: Guarding the Net", "count" : 34, "won" : 18, "lost" : 16, "winrate" : 0.5294117647058824 }

Runner meta

{ "_id" : "Kate \"Mac\" McCaffrey: Digital Tinker", "count" : 225, "won" : 114, "lost" : 111, "winrate" : 0.5066666666666667 }
{ "_id" : "Noise: Hacker Extraordinaire", "count" : 192, "won" : 80, "lost" : 112, "winrate" : 0.4166666666666667 }
{ "_id" : "MaxX: Maximum Punk Rock", "count" : 177, "won" : 102, "lost" : 75, "winrate" : 0.576271186440678 }
{ "_id" : "Quetzal: Free Spirit", "count" : 141, "won" : 62, "lost" : 79, "winrate" : 0.4397163120567376 }
{ "_id" : "Valencia Estevez: The Angel of Cayambe", "count" : 139, "won" : 71, "lost" : 68, "winrate" : 0.5107913669064749 }
{ "_id" : "Adam: Compulsive Hacker", "count" : 125, "won" : 45, "lost" : 80, "winrate" : 0.36 }
{ "_id" : "Whizzard: Master Gamer", "count" : 110, "won" : 58, "lost" : 52, "winrate" : 0.5272727272727272 }
{ "_id" : "Sunny Lebeau: Security Specialist", "count" : 107, "won" : 38, "lost" : 69, "winrate" : 0.35514018691588783 }
{ "_id" : "Hayley Kaplan: Universal Scholar", "count" : 105, "won" : 42, "lost" : 63, "winrate" : 0.4 }
{ "_id" : "Leela Patel: Trained Pragmatist", "count" : 104, "won" : 56, "lost" : 48, "winrate" : 0.5384615384615384 }
{ "_id" : "Chaos Theory: WĆ¼nderkind", "count" : 93, "won" : 32, "lost" : 61, "winrate" : 0.34408602150537637 }
{ "_id" : "Rielle \"Kit\" Peddler: Transhuman", "count" : 93, "won" : 40, "lost" : 53, "winrate" : 0.43010752688172044 }
{ "_id" : "Gabriel Santiago: Consummate Professional", "count" : 87, "won" : 44, "lost" : 43, "winrate" : 0.5057471264367817 }
{ "_id" : "Andromeda: Dispossessed Ristie", "count" : 74, "won" : 38, "lost" : 36, "winrate" : 0.5135135135135135 }
{ "_id" : "Apex: Invasive Predator", "count" : 70, "won" : 28, "lost" : 42, "winrate" : 0.4 }
{ "_id" : "Edward Kim: Humanity's Hammer", "count" : 64, "won" : 24, "lost" : 40, "winrate" : 0.375 }
{ "_id" : "Reina Roja: Freedom Fighter", "count" : 58, "won" : 23, "lost" : 35, "winrate" : 0.39655172413793105 }
{ "_id" : "Ken \"Express\" Tenma: Disappeared Clone", "count" : 51, "won" : 28, "lost" : 23, "winrate" : 0.5490196078431373 }
{ "_id" : "Armand \"Geist\" Walker: Tech Lord", "count" : 50, "won" : 32, "lost" : 18, "winrate" : 0.64 }
{ "_id" : "Silhouette: Stealth Operative", "count" : 45, "won" : 20, "lost" : 25, "winrate" : 0.4444444444444444 }

Most active players

{ "_id" : "evilbabi", "count" : 34 }
{ "_id" : "torlu", "count" : 30 }
{ "_id" : "Tobyn", "count" : 29 }
{ "_id" : "yeti", "count" : 28 }
{ "_id" : "manvstrees", "count" : 27 }
{ "_id" : "Smattc", "count" : 24 }
{ "_id" : "jaimetesquilles", "count" : 21 }
{ "_id" : "k1k1", "count" : 21 }
{ "_id" : "cryogen", "count" : 21 }
{ "_id" : "InanimateLog", "count" : 21 }
{ "_id" : "TugtetguT", "count" : 21 }
{ "_id" : "dante77", "count" : 21 }
{ "_id" : "jcsung", "count" : 20 }
{ "_id" : "jdbutterbaugh", "count" : 20 }
{ "_id" : "Shinobi", "count" : 20 }
{ "_id" : "milhouse46", "count" : 20 }
{ "_id" : "BangBoom", "count" : 19 }
{ "_id" : "Gatlinggoon", "count" : 18 }
{ "_id" : "josh", "count" : 18 }
{ "_id" : "Britanger", "count" : 18 }

Corp wins by type

{ "_id" : "Agenda", "count" : 619 }
{ "_id" : "Flatline", "count" : 414 }
{ "_id" : "Concede", "count" : 176 }

Runner wins by type

{ "_id" : "Agenda", "count" : 838 }
{ "_id" : "Concede", "count" : 150 }
{ "_id" : "Decked", "count" : 36 }
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Holy crap, one day of data and someone has played 34 games?!

Also, Geist has the highest runner winrate. Awesome!

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Can I like this multiple times, please?

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With more games the win rate tends to get closer to 50%.

Leela used to be at 68% at 50 games count. Now sheā€™s at 54%.

NEH used to be at 71% at 50 games count, now 65%.

I think there needs to be 100+ games to have a relevant win %.

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I like but dislike this. Having access to stats like this .feels like it could hurt a lot of people trying to test or play new things. The same way a kill/death ratio negatively impacts the way some players play FPS. Will this be viewable by all?

In all fairness, if youā€™re worried about your Jinteki.net rating* then youā€™re doing it wrong. Itā€™s a place to experiment, practice, have fun, test.

*not yet implimented

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Oh, I totally understand. I play the game, I donā€™t care about stats. But Iā€™ve been negatively impacted by others because of their concern with numbers like that. Just my two cents is all.

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Itā€™s worth being concerned about. If public win/loss ratios makes Jinketi.net players even more surly when losing, that would be crappy.

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Ah, I see what youā€™re sayingā€¦ Perhaps.

And just for clarification I was using you in the general sense, not you in particular.

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Obvious next step would be a Ranked / Unranked area of Jinteki.net then. Up to @mtgred then if he wants to take it that direction.

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In most other games we can see ELO and win/loss rate are poison for the game, no matter what game is. Can we not add this old useless stats method to netrunner ? Or can you make them personal so is not start the race for who have the bigger virtual penis ?

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I donā€™t think your premise here is true.

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Iā€™m torn. Iā€™d like to see my ELO. Iā€™d like to know how I compare with other players. Iā€™d like the metagame on jinteki to be more competitive. I donā€™t want to lose what we have at jinteki.net. Itā€™s really cool. I do worry about cheating and similar ruining the feel of the site. Itā€™ll probably be fineā€¦

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