[quote=“Yoshi, post:9, topic:6977”]
It is to the point that I play Shaper with Clot etc and seriously miss the Turntable, Clot is for the symptoms, Turntable is for the root of the evil
[/quote]in general, I’d say this is true (turntable is nuts, and on its own way way better than clot), but when you bring sac con into the mix it becomes a whole different story. All your FA cards are dead weight and CVS can’t help you. If you don’t come up with something clever in the next few turns against the @x3r0h0ur flavor hayley (for example - there are others doing the same thing tho), the shaper RnD+remote lock gets rolling and all of a sudden you’re up shit creek Add in artist colony and you can find yourself in the same boat as against turntable, where any agenda steal can ruin your chances even further as additional sac cons or clone chips can be summoned at will.
The TLDR to this thread in general though is (whose title should be: “NEH is the question, are there any answers besides Whizzard?”) Hayley. IMO if you’re a fan of green that’s where you should be looking right now.
For criminal… well, that’s a whole other thread, isn’t it? I’ve seen some mean DLR Leela builds recently that sometimes pack gang sign and inside jobs which can put a cramp on NBN if they don’t get the draw that they’d like. Overall criminal continues to struggle though with their regular issues: no good, easy card draw in faction, basically only one good in faction breaker, no in-faction recursion, and the proliferation of siphon-resilient corp econs and tough ice that are cheap to rez and thus not vulnerable to derezzing/forced rezzing mechanics.