I would love to see your current list! Always intrigued with what you’re brewing up
Removed the festers, along the same lines as lamprey, it just doesn’t pull it’s weight often enough. Decked out 3/4 games a little faster than I wanted, so I removed 1 peddler, thats the most recent change. Nothing super different here from most builds, but it has been a well oiled machine for me:
Noise Hacker Extraordinaire
15 influence spent (max 15) •••••••••••••••
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Underway
Event Event (6)
3x Déjà Vu
2x Inject
1x Stimhack
Hardware Hardware (5)
3x Clone Chip ••••• •
2x Grimoire
Resource Resource (12)
2x Adjusted Chronotype
3x Aesop’s Pawnshop ••••• •
2x Daily Casts
2x Street Peddler
3x Wyldside
Icebreaker Icebreaker (4)
1x Corroder
1x Faust
1x Mimic
1x Yog.0
Program Program (18)
3x Cache •••
1x Clot
2x D4v1d
3x Datasucker
3x Imp
1x Incubator
2x Medium
3x Parasite
Faust is a boss.
You wouldn’t rather use IHW in place of Inject or Peddler when using Faust? Straight card draw for fuel seems useful, but I wouldn’t know how that played. Peddler and Inject make sense when using Crysis, for instance, but with Faust I would want more cards in hand. It may help the decking issue a little more, if you wanted to avoid that.
You’re definitely using faust as a last ditch/fill in the blanks as needed. I’m not using it to break ETR 90% of the time. Parasite and real breakers as needed, faust enables surprise runs on low money, and glory runs on archives. It’s definitely a massive support program rather than real breaker. Typically I’m breaking with a real breaker for 1 layer of ice, then faust for the next, since people think noise is vulnerable to rush or 2 layers of ice early. I like to remind the corp that those days are behind Noise.
The best part is when you have tons of suckers and one sub ice protecting where you want to go early game before you’ve seen all/most of your other breakers
edit: also you can use it to fuel insta parasites on the second ice if you have CC installed, without a parasite in the heap the corp might rez an ice that you can sucker down, you activate the +2 str then just CC parasite and trash the ice. That worked in a few games. Also, I did that with d4v1d, when I only had faust and a clone chip installed, no d4v1d in the heap already.
Power Shutdown is a fact of life. You don’t really NEED anything that badly. I promise it’s not as big of a deal as it seems.
How do you find the Yog? I’m actually thinking of adding it back to my breaker suite.
I dont see any reason to run yog. Just parasite those code gates
+1. Iv tried and tried again with yog.0 but every time its been cheaper and quicker to parasite stuff. Even against blue sun, just get multiple suckers online pronto.
For sure heh. Any excuse to say Noise’s motto though.
The thing with yog is that it’s infinite parasites for all the codegates (except one).
So you can more easily and freely parasite other ice. For 3 ice you have yogged instead of parasited it’s already woth it money wise.
I am considering putting one off event that trashes ice (name escapes me). Btw, does that kill architects?
Nothing kills Architect once it’s installed.
Are you maybe thinking of the silverware suite, Knifed/Forked/Spooned?
EDIT: Oh, do you mean Immolation Script?
Yes, Immolation Script. In last few games it would’ve been devastating. Clearing out a tollbooth, eli and a lotus field.
Curious about the Lotus Field. Did they have one in the trash that they put there themselves?
If so, may I ask how you break code-gates, because except against NRE-Yog, it seems like a decent ICE against Noise, just expensive to rez.
Here is the list I have been playing a lot lately. Not too distant from my Regionals list but changed out the pancake combo to spice it up. Really liking it a lot so far. Less setup is amazing especially when you get those awkward turns between having Wyldside and having Chronotype.
Viral Peddler
Noise: Hacker Extraordinaire
Event (11)
3x Déjà Vu
3x I’ve Had Worse
2x Inject
3x Sure Gamble
Hardware (4)
3x Clone Chip ••••• •
1x Grimoire
Resource (9)
3x Aesop’s Pawnshop ••••• •
3x Daily Casts
3x Street Peddler
Icebreaker (4)
1x Corroder
2x Knight
1x Mimic
Program (17)
3x Cache •••
2x D4v1d
3x Datasucker
3x Imp
2x Lamprey
1x Medium
3x Parasite
15 influence spent (max 15)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Underway
I have 3/2 IHW/Inject due to high amounts of damage decks in meta. I’ve been sticking with Knight because I like it, I tried Faust but too many times I didn’t want to throw away stuff, and without Pancake engine I’m not sure that it is better than Knight except against Blue Sun. I might consider trying a Yog.0 though, I haven’t tested it much at all with this build. Sure Gamble is a card I could definitely lose now that I don’t have Pancakes but I do still love it as a burst up econ card, so hard to say, seeing it early definitley makes your pressure on all servers much higher.
It got milled. It’s always a must-imp/mill as well, whenever I see it. Quite often there is one in the bin at the end.
Yog is stellar, if you draw the money right. The ability to blank tons of code gates is worth the slot. Usually I incidentally stimhack it out while doing something else, of I use it at all. When its good its great, when its bad…its Faust food…I’ll keep it.
I’ve tried immolation script and its fine but RP makes it a pita to use…unless you get yog out and can manage to float suckers
To elaborate further now that I’m at a keyboard. Yog lets you more effectively manage your parasites in what I would consider the most important match up. I think though toughest part of your RP match up, which is pretty favorable, is managing parasite usage. Freeing up several parasites from code gates, and the game is already long so coming up with 5 bucks isn’t so bad, yog is totally worth it. You need parasite for pup, tollbooth, tsurugi, insta-ing bako, and on rare occasion crick and Eli. If you can not parasite enigma and other bs codegates they run, you have more to save for the other ice.
Like lotus field
Try swapping the sure gambles for dirty laundries: lower cost to play, combos with sucker/imp, and reminds you to run more.
As if people already didn’t take me seriously enough, sure gamble isn’t that great in your average pawnshop noise deck. Good? Sure, but I think it’s outclassed by a good deal of cards.
I probably would just -3 Sure Gamble +1 Inject +1 Yog.0 and +1 Grimoire/Clot before I’d sub in Dirty Laundry. I already run a lot with this build and while it combos with viruses IF you have them installed, it is strictly worse econ IMO could just be a play style thing.
Fair enough. Event econ, especially with Peddler, just doesn’t seem to cut it in Noise.