Official Tournament Winning Decklists Page

DJhedgehog · January 26, 2015, 2:10pm

I understand that you guys are trying to preserve the tournament scene (or whatever you’re doing). Post them up or don’t, it really makes no difference to me.

Despite your poo-pooing and the restriction at the tournament, 61 players from our community participated. Sorry you couldn’t be there to enjoy the fun.

As the winner of the tournament when you guys are going to every thread and downplaying the relevance of the tournament it feels personal. Maybe you didn’t mean it as personal, but I fought tooth and nail to win that tournament against good players who were trying to do the same despite deck restrictions that we didn’t create. Maybe have some respect for the people who went and had fun and played their asses off and just say nothing if a similar situation comes up again.

Ajar · January 26, 2015, 2:33pm

I specifically stated that the restriction in no way implied that this wasn’t a high-level tournament. That said, I was actually very surprised you didn’t mention the restriction yourself when you posted your decklists – it’s not a question of downplaying the result, it’s a question of providing necessary context for the result. A meta change as big as restricting AstroScript is very relevant when attempting to interpret the results.

This tournament was a different meta than one played under the standard rules. That doesn’t make it more challenging or less challenging, lots of people are still good at playing Netrunner regardless of which cards are allowed. The point is that these winning lists aren’t from the same meta than the other winning lists from tournaments played during this data pack window. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t go on the decklists page; I asked the question because I honestly don’t know what the right way to handle it is. I don’t think they can just go under The Source data pack category, but it seems like there should be some way to make it work.

I also want to be clear that I never pooh-pooed the restriction. I’m sorry if you think I did and if you think I’m belittling your win because it came in a different meta. I didn’t intend to do that, but I do think it’s extremely important for people looking at the winning lists to understand the meta in which they appeared. It’s much the same as looking at historical decklists from the current winning lists page – you need the context to interpret the results.

Finally, I’m not opposed to modified rules tournaments. I would have done this one differently – if you look back to when the tournament was announced you’ll see that I actually suggested an alternative – but I wasn’t the organizer and everything I’ve seen suggests they threw a fantastic event. Great prize support (one-upping FFG in a big way), great turnout, everyone talks about it like it was a ton of fun. Which is great for the game, and I’m glad it’s gotten big enough that stuff like this is starting to happen.

Oh, right, one more thing: congratulations on your win!

Dragar · January 26, 2015, 2:42pm

Maybe the best way to handle it is to treat it like another datapack. Just like the datapack headings specify the rules in place at the time, you could have:

The Source (Astroscript restricted in tournament rules)

So it appears separate from the rest. It’s not neat, since I’m not sure how many other tournaments will include that same restriction, but it seems the cleanest way of viewing it.

Ajar · January 26, 2015, 3:16pm

That makes sense. I’d been thinking about a variant rules tournament category or something, but it’s better to have it at the right place in time if we can.

secretSecret · January 26, 2015, 3:30pm

Care to share? Especially the NEH list!

Ajar · January 26, 2015, 3:56pm

It’s only fair, since I shamelessly stole both lists.

@Calimsha Kate:

Digital Tinker (v3.2)

Kate “Mac” McCaffrey: Digital Tinker (Core Set)

Event (24)
3x Diesel (Core Set)
3x Dirty Laundry (Creation and Control)
2x Indexing (Future Proof)
2x Legwork (Honor and Profit) ••••
1x Levy AR Lab Access (Creation and Control)
3x Lucky Find (Double Time) ••••• •
2x Quality Time (Humanity’s Shadow)
2x Scavenge (Creation and Control)
1x Stimhack (Core Set) •
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)
2x The Maker’s Eye (Core Set)

Hardware (8)
2x Astrolabe (Up and Over)
3x Clone Chip (Creation and Control)
3x Prepaid VoicePAD (Second Thoughts)

Resource (2)
1x Same Old Thing (Creation and Control)
1x Utopia Shard (All That Remains) •

Icebreaker (7)
2x Cerberus “Lady” H1 (All That Remains)
2x Cyber-Cypher (Creation and Control)
1x Deus X (A Study in Static)
1x Mimic (Core Set) •
1x Sharpshooter (True Colors)

Program (4)
1x Parasite (Core Set) ••
3x Self-modifying Code (Creation and Control)

I’ve since lost to @bblum’s “IT Department Crush Your Soul” EtF build, but I’m pretty confident in this deck even considering O&C will be legal at this week’s league night. I’ll just have to break Orion with CyCy, which is no worse than breaking Curtain Wall with Lady (and IMO those two ice compete for the same slot in Blue Sun).

@Nordrunner DRT NEH:

Near-Earth Hub: Broadcast Center (Upstalk)

Agenda (11)
3x AstroScript Pilot Program (Core Set)
3x NAPD Contract (Double Time)
3x Project Beale (Future Proof)
2x TGTBT (True Colors)

Asset (15)
2x Daily Business Show (All That Remains)
3x Dedicated Response Team (Future Proof) ••••• ••••
3x Jackson Howard (Opening Moves)
2x Marked Accounts (Cyber Exodus)
2x PAD Campaign (Core Set)
3x Snare! (Core Set) ••••• •

Upgrade (3)
3x SanSan City Grid (Core Set)

Operation (10)
1x Archived Memories (Core Set) ••
3x Diversified Portfolio (Honor and Profit)
2x Interns (Mala Tempora)
3x Manhunt (First Contact)
1x Psychographics (Core Set)

Barrier (1)
1x Wall of Static (Core Set)

Code Gate (6)
3x Pop-up Window (Cyber Exodus)
2x Quandary (Double Time)
1x Tollbooth (Core Set)

Sentry (3)
3x Data Raven (Core Set)

This deck, surprisingly enough, is even killing people who know the score. So far I’ve only lost to massive agenda flood and to @Calimsha in a close game, otherwise I either score out around the threat of DRT or get a Snare + DRT kill when a Runner gets reckless or desperate. I’ve since made a slight tweak to this list - removing Tollbooth and Archived for 2x Executive Boot Camp. We’ll see if that’s better or worse, but to this point the biggest thing slowing the deck down has been ensuring I have a DRT on hand when I’m ready to threaten.

I may or may not keep playing it after O&C, because I think a lot of people will be playing Anarch and almost all of them will be packing Imp.

groober · January 26, 2015, 4:31pm

I don’t doubt it’s a great achievement - plus you got some awesome loot! Sorry for coming across as dismissive. My only point was that if tournament winning deck-lists are there to showcase the current meta, then next to this decklist it should be explained clearly what the meta was.

Anyway, congrats and I’m v. jelly of the alt-arts.

snake3yes · January 26, 2015, 6:42pm

Since the ruling was in favour of special tournament results getting posted, I’m going to put up one here from 2 weeks ago. It was our city’s largest attendance at an event and highly promoted in our local area, so I’d like to post it up here for the glory! I’ll write how it was restricted after the decklists…

Android: Netrunner - Halifax MEGA BOWL
Winner: Nick K.
Participants: 16
Location: Board Room Game Cafe, (Halifax, NS, Canada)
Date: Sunday, the 11th of January, 2015.

Avalon

Jinteki: Replicating Perfection (Trace Amount)

Agenda (9)
3x NAPD Contract (Double Time)
3x Nisei MK II (Core Set)
3x The Future Perfect (Honor and Profit)

Asset (9)
3x Jackson Howard (Opening Moves) •••
3x Mental Health Clinic (Honor and Profit)
3x Sundew (Mala Tempora)

Upgrade (4)
1x Ash 2X3ZB9CY (What Lies Ahead) ••
3x Caprice Nisei (Double Time)

Operation (8)
3x Hedge Fund (Core Set)
2x Interns (Mala Tempora)
3x Medical Research Fundraiser (Honor and Profit)

Barrier (4)
1x Eli 1.0 (Future Proof) •
3x Galahad (Upstalk) •••

Code Gate (7)
2x Lotus Field (Upstalk)
3x Merlin (All That Remains) •••
2x Quandary (Double Time)

Sentry (6)
3x Lancelot (First Contact) •••
3x Tsurugi (True Colors)

Other (2)
2x Excalibur (The Source)

15 influence spent (max 15)
21 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
49 cards (min 45)

The Dance

Leela Patel: Trained Pragmatist (All That Remains)

Event (22)
3x Account Siphon (Core Set)
3x Dirty Laundry (Creation and Control)
2x Emergency Shutdown (Cyber Exodus)
3x Inside Job (Core Set)
3x Legwork (Honor and Profit)
2x Lucky Find (Double Time) ••••
3x Special Order (Core Set)
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)

Hardware (7)
2x Desperado (Core Set)
2x Plascrete Carapace (What Lies Ahead)
3x R&D Interface (Future Proof) ••••• •

Resource (5)
3x Kati Jones (Humanity’s Shadow)
2x Security Testing (Honor and Profit)

Icebreaker (12)
3x Cerberus “Rex” H2 (All That Remains)
2x Corroder (Core Set) ••••
3x Faerie (Future Proof)
1x Femme Fatale (Core Set)
1x Garrote (True Colors)
1x Mimic (Core Set) •
1x Passport (Honor and Profit)

15 influence spent (max 15)
46 cards (min 45)

How this tournament was different was that it was a double elimination tournament straight from the opening round. This was the conclusion of a League, where people’s standings in the League determined their seedings. It was still open to the public. People who did not attend were considered to have zero prestige (which, aside for a few earlier match-ups of a few strong players vs other strong players who never participated in the league, didn’t impact very much). Also proxies were permitted, so long as the proxies were of high quality and contained all of the card’s information.

Congrats to Nick for taking the MEGA BOWL!

Ajar · January 26, 2015, 6:48pm

That’s awesome, and it’s great to see Netrunner going on in my home province! My league is doing a similar double elim tournament for the top 8 after the 10-week league concludes.

Feliks · January 26, 2015, 6:57pm

Proxies for existing cards (I.e. I only own 1 SanSan so I’ll proxy 2 more) or were y’all going as far as to proxy for unreleased spoiled cards? I assume the first since I don’t see any unreleased cards in your deck, but the second would be crazy interesting.

bluebird503 · January 26, 2015, 7:36pm

Using a different tournament format is completely different from using a different card pool. Don’t think they should be treated the same and both probably would need to be looked at in a case by case basis. (unless there is an overwhelming amount of them, which is currently not the case)

snake3yes · January 26, 2015, 8:54pm

Oh, right on!

We only had 5 games in the league - it was supposed to be 6, but some scheduling and projected attendance mishaps caused us to cut one… One for every datapack! The store sponsored our event, giving the datapack to the winner. The Winner of the MEGA BOWL will get a free copy of Order and Chaos once available. (Plus a whole bunch of other prizes that I managed to scrape together… Nothing to the scale of ChiLo Grudge Match’s awesome prize pool… But along the same vein.)

For Felik’s question, yeah legal cardpool cards only. I wanted to let people have that 3rd Desperado, and be able to bring their best possible decks to the MEGA BOWL, not being restricted by only owning half of the cards. One guy did this to great effect and managed to get 3rd place with a Corp deck that was 33% proxies. (Didn’t play his runner, but I assume it was a similar story!)

jerklin · January 26, 2015, 9:00pm

Restricting APP to 1 per deck is pretty lame and makes the competitive level of that whole event suspect IMO.

DJhedgehog · January 26, 2015, 9:03pm

You’re right, we’re all scrubs.

EdjeMaker · January 26, 2015, 9:12pm

I had my semifinal match recorded against a great Leela Patel Deck.

They will be uploaded to youtube in a few days, we are trying to get me an the other players to commentate on them.

Unfortunately, I don’ t think we recorded my match against Timmy’s Industrial genomics deck .

tomdidiot · January 27, 2015, 1:26am

If I remember correctly, you had already been a cheeky git, and dumped a Project Wotan into archives. If you hadn’t done that, you would have been fine And you won the trip to worlds in the end, didn’t you?

Iain Reid also definitely learned his lesson. He played security testing prefectly this weekend by moving his Security testing marker back from the server to security testing every single turn.

mediohxcore · January 27, 2015, 2:08am

I sort of agree. One of the main reasons to include data about winning decks, etc, is because other people want to see how people win in the current meta. If you restrict astro, it makes it a different meta. On one hand, it’s hard to call it ‘competitive level’ because people are playing a slightly different game than the rest of the ‘competitive level’, but on the other hand, people were trying their best to win and it was a big tournament.

Obvious solution is to post it with a lot of asterisks and maybe a parenthetical note in the title. Grats on the win @DJhedgehog!

SnowB0und · January 27, 2015, 3:15am

Fantasy Books & Games Store Championship
Fairview Heights, IL
25 January 2015
15 Attendees – 4 Swiss Rounds, Top 4 Double Elimination

1st Place – Nicholas Ehlers

###[Fun Police SC][1] (49 cards)

[Jinteki: Replicating Perfection][2]

Agenda (9)

1 [Fetal AI][3]
3 [NAPD Contract][4]
3 [Nisei MK II][5]
2 [The Future Perfect][6]

Asset (10)

1 [Executive Boot Camp][7] •
3 [Jackson Howard][8] •••
3 [Mental Health Clinic][9]
3 [Sundew][10]

Upgrade (4)

1 [Ash 2X3ZB9CY][11] ••
3 [Caprice Nisei][12]

Operation (9)

3 [Celebrity Gift][13]
2 [Enhanced Login Protocol][14] ••••
3 [Hedge Fund][15]
1 [Interns][16]

Barrier (5)

3 [Eli 1.0][17] •••
1 [Himitsu-Bako][18]
1 [Wall of Thorns][19]

Code Gate (4)

2 [Enigma][20]
1 [Lotus Field][21]
1 [Tollbooth][22] ••

Sentry (7)

1 [Komainu][23]
3 [Pup][24]
3 [Tsurugi][25]

ICE (1)

1 [Excalibur][26]

###[Stealth Lady SC][1] (45 cards)

[Kate “Mac” McCaffrey: Digital Tinker][2]

Event (8)

2 [Diesel][3]
3 [Dirty Laundry][4]
3 [Sure Gamble][5]

Hardware (16)

2 [Astrolabe][6]
2 [Clone Chip][7]
1 [Feedback Filter][8]
2 [HQ Interface][9] ••••
3 [Lockpick][10]
1 [Plascrete Carapace][11]
2 [R&D Interface][12]
3 [Silencer][13] ••••• ••••

Resource (10)

2 [Daily Casts][14]
3 [Ghost Runner][15]
2 [Kati Jones][16]
3 [Professional Contacts][17]

Icebreaker (5)

3 [Cerberus “Lady” H1][18]
1 [Refractor][19]
1 [Switchblade][20] ••

Program (6)

3 [Cloak][21]
3 [Self-modifying Code][22]

TandooriChicken · January 27, 2015, 3:24am

I don’t see how restricting a big source of variance (and therefore potentially serious negator of skill differences) decreases the competitive level of a tournament. Unless the axis of competition is: who gets the AsPP’s first?

Even then, though, isn’t it harder to get just ONE Astro than three? I would thus assess the competitive level of this tournament as approximately triple that of weaker, full-Astro, metas…

EDIT: for embarrassing grammatical error that I will now try to play off as a typo.

d1en · January 27, 2015, 4:10am

Black Knight Games Store Championship Jan. 25/15
Hamilton, ON, Canada
16 Players - 4 Rounds/Top 4 Cut

1st Place: Dien Tran

Uninspired to make decks, I ran with a Shaper deck which fit the mold I wanted, and re-used scummy NEH.

Black Knight Games Store Champ 2015 Winning List (Jan. 25)

Kate “Mac” McCaffrey: Digital Tinker (Core Set)

Event (11)
3x Modded (Core Set)
1x Scavenge (Creation and Control)
2x Stimhack (Core Set) ••
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)
1x Test Run (Cyber Exodus)
1x The Maker’s Eye (Core Set)

Hardware (13)
2x Astrolabe (Up and Over)
3x Clone Chip (Creation and Control)
2x CyberSolutions Mem Chip (Fear and Loathing)
1x HQ Interface (Humanity’s Shadow) ••
2x Plascrete Carapace (What Lies Ahead)
3x R&D Interface (Future Proof)

Resource (8)
3x Daily Casts (Creation and Control)
2x Kati Jones (Humanity’s Shadow)
3x Professional Contacts (Creation and Control)

Icebreaker (6)
1x Atman (Creation and Control)
1x Corroder (Core Set) ••
1x Deus X (A Study in Static)
1x Femme Fatale (Core Set) •
1x Gordian Blade (Core Set)
1x Mimic (Core Set) •

Program (7)
2x Datasucker (Core Set) ••
1x Imp (What Lies Ahead) •••
1x Parasite (Core Set) ••
3x Self-modifying Code (Creation and Control)

15 influence spent (max 15)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Up and Over

Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.

Daily Scumlord News 401 Games Winning Corp List (Dec. 7 14)

Near-Earth Hub: Broadcast Center (Upstalk)

Agenda (11)
3x AstroScript Pilot Program (Core Set)
2x Breaking News (Core Set)
3x NAPD Contract (Double Time)
3x Project Beale (Future Proof)

Asset (10)
2x Daily Business Show (All That Remains)
3x Jackson Howard (Opening Moves)
2x Marked Accounts (Cyber Exodus)
3x PAD Campaign (Core Set)

Upgrade (3)
3x SanSan City Grid (Core Set)

Operation (11)
3x Biotic Labor (Core Set) ••••• ••••• ••
2x Fast Track (Honor and Profit)
3x Hedge Fund (Core Set)
3x Sweeps Week (True Colors)

Barrier (5)
2x Wall of Static (Core Set)
3x Wraparound (Fear and Loathing)

Code Gate (6)
1x Enigma (Core Set)
1x Lotus Field (Upstalk) •
3x Pop-up Window (Cyber Exodus)
1x Quandary (Double Time)

Sentry (3)
2x Architect (Up and Over) ••••
1x Guard (Honor and Profit)

17 influence spent (max 17)
20 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
49 cards (min 45)
Cards up to All That Remains

Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.