Stimhackers on Jinteki.net?

I played my first game on jinteki.net a few days ago and I was very impressed with the interface. I’ve played a decent amount on OCTGN but I think I’ll be making the switch to jinteki. My only issue so far is that the board get’s cramped really fast if you play on a small monitor. Card disappear under other cards etc. I’m Simen on there as well.

Looks like a few of us have some compleints about the level of play and the type of decks being played. wouldn’t calling your games “looking for advanced/competitive” or similar cicumvent these issues? There has to be room for people new to the game and people that want to try out kooky deck ideas.

Zooming out your browser helps a bit.

I’m on there occasionally as MasterAir, and I prefer using some combination of stimhack.slack and skype to try to find opponents. It’s good for making sure you can beat jank or unconventional flavour of the month. (I’m looking at you paparazzi).

You’d think labelling games would help, wouldn’t you?

This tends to get people who are “advanced” players (sorry folks, but some really aren’t), but then don’t know how Jinteki works - which is fine we all had to learn, but quite often they seem to be blaming the interface for why they aren’t doing very well…

It takes all sorts and some people are great, but sorting the wheat from the chaff can be a challenge. A recognised group or league would be the best way forward I feel. Obviously other people will have had different experiences than mine too. I might just be a trouble magnet.

Yes, you’ll find a lot of jank decks on jinteki.net. That’s not necessarily bad if you communicate with your opponent if you want a serious game or a fun game.

[There’s already a pull request][1] to add a game type/skill level selection, but it’s not merged. If you would like something like that, feel free to add a comment there to express your support of such a feature (that could help convincing Minh to add that feature).

It sucks when you play against someone who does not know the rules, and I think this happens more on j.net because it has a lower level entry point than OCTGN; but also a lot of new players use the lobby to ask someone to teach them.

We expect the next server update this weekend with a lot of bug fixes and performance improvements.

P.S.: Don’t play with Azogar.

P.P.S.: Yes, a lot of people don’t read the game titles.

P.P.P.S: Really, don’t play with Azogar.
[1]: User-selected indicators for skill level and seriousness when creating games by nealterrell · Pull Request #481 · mtgred/netrunner · GitHub

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I play as king_mob most lunch hours. Apologies to those of you i have already been incredibly toxic to, its the anonymity provided by the internet, it just brings out the worst side of me.

At least im not as bad as Azogar though.

I am on intermittently as jflans

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A league would be fun, but a lot of overhead. If someone set one up I’d play, but I’d settle for some kind of call sign to attract other stimhackers.

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maybe just add “stimhacker” to the title of the game, its a bit clique-ey but at least it would ensure a slightly better standard of play and less toxic wankers (although im guessing @evilgaz will still be on there).

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I play as simonmoon. I’d be interested in some sort of stimhack signal. Today I said lf prepaid Kate and got davinci Kate, which was interesting but not the practice I was looking for.

Also, azogar? Deets?

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Azogar is a bit of a joke nowadays, horribly toxic player who cheats, swears, ragequits and generally acts like a child. A drunk child. No one really plays with them but their name is a running joke all the same.

He calls himself King_Mob these days.

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I’m Saan there as well.

Once he joined a game with spectator mode enabled. Someone noticed it and posted it in the lobby.

Never had a game on jinteki.net more spectators.

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I see that there is a feature request open on GitHub for an ELO/Ranking system but it looks like there is a lot of opposition in the name of toxic and aggressive player behavior. Given that this Azogar is already infamous I guess its a valid concern. Would it be too much work to set up a league on whatever the OCTGN league uses and do ELO outside the site?

If I had my way I would separate the play structures into ranked and casual and let people have their way, but I could definitely see ranked becoming a cesspool not worth any amount of good Netrunner practice.

That will never work. Try setting up a game with “Private” in the title there. It will be joined immediately, no matter if you have put it in caps or made it very clearly understandable that you don’t want random intruders. People don’t read there.

EDIT: I’m Humanoids on there as well…

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I put something like “4 mendax” in my title (for example, although we do play a fair bit) and invariably still have to ask 2-3 people to leave each time.

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Lower quality players, annoying players, interface that is less flexible than OCTGN (Which is seriously not as hard to understand as people make it out to be), and you can’t even get specific games with specific people? Jesus you guys are upselling the hell out of this.

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I prefer octgn by a wide margin, however some of the players in my meta use jinteki.net because octgn on linux is a pig to get working and pretty shaky even then, and i use it because its convenient while at work. For serious playing/testing i prefer octgn by a wide margin.

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The biggest upside to jinteki.net is ease of access. The other major + point is not having to rely on OCTGN being stable.

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OCTGN is definitely a more complete implementation, and more easily allows for takebacks, resolution of mistakes, etc. However, jinteki.net is much more accessible for Mac and Linux users - there are positives to both.

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