I can’t say enough how happy I am that we’re calling Wanton Destruction “wontons”. Someone needs to make an alternate art version of the card to reflect this.
Yeah sounds pretty crazy right? I’m thinking there might be room for a siphon. Next thing I’m going to experiment with are influence spreads of:
1 levy, 3 clone, 1 siphon, 1 zu13
1 levy, 3 clone, 2 atman
Chinese dumpling for the win.
You’re not the only one play testing bblum. Im over thirty with maxx.
And of course you neeed somemail cutlery if you’re going to eat wontons.
As a chinese, I feel offended. Why should I use some cutleries to eat wontons when I already have chopsticks ?
What list have you arrived at? What matchups do you like/dislike?
Sad news to report - the distributor is sending out O&C today to the venue. It won’t get here until hopefully Friday. WHY!?!?!?!?
At least I can play OCTGN tonight for the first time. Sorry to derail, I really just enjoy this thread because the new cards really look great to me.
Dude you think that’s bad? The moment you have it in your hands, I have to wait at least 1-8 more weeks(depending on the speed of the S.S. FFG) to get it to my FLGS
I feel crazy, in a world of people posting ‘breakerless’ decks, running as few breakers as possible, including Steve Wooley, I feel like running more copies of more breakers is good. Am I just fucking crazy, or do you not have to break ice any more?
I remember when I first started playing the game and I was horrified that you had to pay every single time to break an ICE with an icebreaker… wow how can Corp ever lose if their servers just get more and more expensive?
I had the right idea all along. Regular icebreakers are for chumps - Parasite and Cutlery ALL THE THINGS! cackles maniacally
While I agree with ‘the anarch way’ meaning trash ice, I find that not viable against HB. While they’re the least played corp right now, you can make a dent in anarch shenanigans by playing HB, and running 18+ ice.
There is just something to be said for set and forget. Put out the breakers, and just find cash. I’ll be on my planet of playing a different game if anyone needs me.
You absolutely shouldn’t. Absolutely do not use fork, knife or spoon. I understand that Beijing Cycle will be releasing a Chop cycle.
Chop sticks, Chop shop, Chop-sui, chopping Block…
bblum:
So there are a variety of Maxx decks I’ve been playing:
Maxx Sage:
Maxx Wonton Destruction
Maxx StimDealer
Things I’ve liked:
AIs: Overmind, Darwin, and Wyrm have been great.
Parasite: Part of the problem with beta cards of course is where the rulings will come down. I’ve been presuming that viruses on Hivemind will not be trashed when you use a parasite. This lets you instantly trash a lot of ice - very very strong.
I hate fester but if you are playing incubator, hivemind, vbg, (and not playing vamp) fester seems to work well in maxx as a 1 of, or 2 off.
Levy: About the only card thats indispensible.
The entire suite of (progenitor, darwin, hivemind incubator, vbg, surge) has been amazing.
For example: Darwin has 2 counter. Medium has 1. You add 1 at start of turn (3). You play hivemind surge surge. Due to scrubbed, darwin breaks all ice str <11, and you access 6 cards from r & d.
I’ve been trying to work in stim dealer into that.
So I’ve played pretty heavy with amp, stim dealer, wonton, cutlery, dayjob.
I tried pretty hard to make ppov work. Building an entire deck around the concept, made it … marginal.
My current explorations are with darwin, progenitor, incubator, and virus breeding ground. And for the record, I hate fester. But hell it seems to work in maxx - because you aren’t looking for 3- you’re looking for 1.
A second avenue of exploration is still around aesop/uninstall/salvage with stimdealer.
There are a LOT of interesting card interactions for anarch. And a lot of cards that were simply over priced. For example: with supplier. Xanadu. Theophilius, Aesop. And I know the popular conception is that you can’t combo with maxx. But the reality is that while you won’t get all your combos with Maxx - you can get some of them. You can adopt your play style to the combos you draw.
Take, for example, xanadu, wyldside, theophilious. The problem for anarch is usually the tempo hit for the cost. In your first go through, you can expect to pull one of these. And plan to pull one with a deja, or pull a second one the second time throught your deck.
So I guess it is under appreciated that if you plan to go through your deck 2x via levy, that you have 2 shots at 1 offs. And anarch has a lot of programs that will benefit from one offs. And you only need aesop at the end to kill wyldside for example. Ie., you don’t build the deck around them - they are useful adjuncts not cards needed NOW.
I’ve been trying single copies of hostage (to pull before trash) - and I don’t like that. It seems to work better to just accept that they will trash and deja.
I have enjoyed tremendously doing ice destruction. From long ago I loved the wyrm destruction via parasite. Right now I absolutely love hivemind with darwin, imp progenitor, and using the cutlery suite.
What I haven’t figure out is - is it better than wyrm? Should it be used in conjunction with wyrm?
So here are things I’ve liked:
A
RRun.
Wonton Destruction
Femme
Scavenge. ++
In one sense I was wrong on clone chip, and I’m still looking at them. The ability to insta trash with hivemind is pretty sexy.
B
Inject, Wyldside, Djinni (due to the ability to pull viruses).
Surge
C
Scrubbed
Wyrm
Sorry to be so disorganized.
Branching off discussion.
I know this is going to be unpopular.
But lets look at some facts - Anarch runs VERY efficient breakers - and except for possibly stealth andy, one of the cheapest decks to run.
Anarch here to fore had poor econ options.
People often use armitage, or Magnum, or a lot of card slots to get adequate income into anarch. The significant issue is that 2/3 or 1/2 of these cards will be trashed. Ie., either a lot of card slots to recur, or a lot of duplication built in.
Heretofore also the only way of relieving the click cost of hard at work was out of faction aesop.
So you can hostage into a supplier and then in your second go thru hostage into aesop. And or there are other contacts joshua/theophilious that can be used in a anarch deck. And you can leverage the supplier/aesop investment with cards such as stim dealer, xanadu, theophilious, wyldside.
To be honest - it still isn’t great. Too slow. But … I haven’t finished.
Well those are thoughts for now.
Here’s the dude that’s actually been playing this shit. Get him some hearts
Chris is always playing the shit
Chopsticks like those one, I guess ?
PPVP has been pretty great in my early testing of MaxX. Really surprised at the hate!
I’ll keep testing my MaxX deck and if she’s any good I’ll let you folks know. Still testing a few last things.
Played a MaxX deck that used MO for econ. I highly recommend it. By getting a free draw every turn, you beat MO’s main issue of being click efficient for credits but not cards. Also, ditching MOs allows all your recursion to rapidly find the thing. Having all your money in such few cards reduces variance if you keep getting econ events trashed, as those are not cost effective to recur.
Managed to pull off an ClonechipMedium->Incubator->DemoRun->Run->Showing Off today. It felt… good. Only scored 6 points though.
Can you give a deck list?
I love the idea (iI posted an early version) but I wasn’t able to make it work well enough. max has such high variance.
3 day, 3 sure, 3 lucky 3 dirty?
Are you running queen or bank?
Can you post the deck? I’ve struggled with having enough memory for such a big idea, but having long-term econ end-game is desirable. I’ve also said screw it, if the game goes long enough to make a difference anyway I’d be shut out, and have tried a stimdealer, box-e x2, public sympathy x2 idea as well.
3 Dirty Laundry, 3 Lucky Find, 3 Sure Gamble, 3 Inject (with PPVP it def becomes a small econ boost)
No Queen’s or Bank Job.
You might be wondering, “Why the fuck is he playing Lucky Find instead of Day Job?”. Well, the answer is because I don’t really need more influence and Lucky Find is a better card (influence costs notwithstanding).