Looks nice. The main vulrability I can see is D4V1D plus recurision (pretty much any deck running D4V1D is going to be running recursion) - breaks Grim and Archer and Wisp doesn’t touch it. Agg Sec would be one solution, although I’ve never found it held its place in any deck I put it in.
Yeah, I’ve been wondering if there’s anything you can do at all once the runner has their breakers and plascrete/money. The only thing I can come up with for classic Supermodernism is some kind of hail mary shell game with Snares and Atlases (and False Leads) if the runner doesn’t have 5 points yet.
I’ve found that Archer is your most important ice against decks running D4v1d. It’s essentially the Anarch version of Faerie, it’ll get them through Archer once and that’s it. But yes, much more annoying than Faerie against Grim and Ichi. D4v1d is probably a good argument for swapping the Ichi out for multiple Rotos. Fortunately, if you’ve got a barrier stacked somewhere on the server with the Grim/Archer/Ichi, you’re hopefully still trashing their fracter with Will-O at the end of the run.
Ah, yes, I did not notice it’s one use only
I agree that combo-wombo has serious weaknesses.
Lacking in-faction ambushes is really a problem for Weyland in general. I’m almost at the point of wanting to run Ghost Branch just to see the look on their faces
Also lacking in-faction card draw is quite sad. If Blue Level Clearance was a Weyland card it would be insanely good for this deck.
About Destroyers, I don’t actually feel that Destroyers do much destroying these days. Andy has Faerie out, Kate has SMC/Clone Chip to tutor an answer (or can just recurse the destroyed program), and Noise has 5 more viruses in hand to replace the dead ones. I absolutely hate a dead Archer in the opening hand when I’m only running 14 ICE, and I also hate weakening the ICE I do have by giving out BP. Basically, I’d prefer to imply that I have destroyers than actually put them in my deck.
If anything, Wisp could work in this deck as a way to punish remote runs. Either with an agenda in there, or just blank since people try to clear Jacksons from remotes already.
That’s how I got on the idea of investing less on ICE and still trying to make them spend money. Without Archer, you never forfeit Hostiles and without BP from Grim you end games with 0-2 BP, so those taxing ICE actually provide a money differential.
Played a couple quick games on OCTGN tonight, if anyone hasn’t seen Combo Wombo in action before then you might be interested to see it work. I’m super rusty with the deck so my play is probably suboptimal, but my opponents didn’t seem overly familiar with the matchup. I played one more game before this and he Siphoned me to $8 with 4 cards and Plascrete out, but I had Jackson on the table so I just comboed into triple Scorch which only requires $5 in that scenario. Screw you Siphon
I tried out Uncorrodable on OCTGN tonight. Was pretty fun and it can tilt your opponent. Feels solidly Tier 2 to me.
Vs Andysucker: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable) vs willequalsftw (Andysucker) - YouTube
Vs Prepaid Chaos: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable) vs nydnard (Prepaid Chaos) - YouTube
Vs Prepaid Kate: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable) vs fluffyguns (Prepaid Kate) - YouTube
A couple more I didn’t upload because they were too one-sided:
Vs Noise - killed his first Knight and he didn’t find any more or Crypsis for the rest of the game. Scored out on turn 11 uncontested.
Vs Kate - Prepaid deck didn’t find any Prepaids and he went to town with Imp for a while but then didn’t have any steam. I Shutdown his SMC and he couldn’t get in.
gotta watch these before i give it a spin.
Scoring Atlas with only 3 advancements is rarely correct unless you have 5 other points. That’s the problem I have with the Weyland shell game.
I think the various ways to turn SEA/Bounty + Scorch back on is a big deal for old school Supermodernism.
I’m going to try this Uncorrodable idea, seems strong.
Played around a bunch today mashing Uncorrodable with scoring combo. Nobody knows there are no Scorches in there
Vs Andysucker: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable Doomsday) vs shango (Andysucker) - YouTube
Vs Andysucker: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable Doomsday) vs boojum (Andysucker) - YouTube
Vs Paintbrush Kit: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable Doomsday) vs gawbo005 (Paintbrush Kit) - YouTube
Vs ProCo Katman: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable Doomsday) vs moioioi (ProCo Katman) - YouTube
Vs Noiseshop: Android: Netrunner - kiv (Weyland Uncorrodable Doomsday) vs chrispederson (Noiseshop) - YouTube
There’s a few more on my channel, plus a few more I didn’t post because too one sided.
Would you mind posting your exact decklist? I understand if you don’t want to, but after watching your videos I’d like to try your build. Pretty sure it’s not the original CrimsonWraith, as I never saw an Ichi or The Root in your games.
Is this combo "JH in play, PS deck, JH to get interns/SfSS/random, AD (Interns to install Atlas, SfSS places two tokens, random card does whatever), then final click advance the Atlas to score a win starting at 5 points?
Or is there another line my tired brain isn’t seeing right now?
Haven’t watched the vids, but probably JH doesn’t need to be in play and “random card” is possibly Subliminal Messaging (which works like Biotic if triggered from Accelerated Diagnostics).
So possible is:
- click: install JH
- click: PS the deck
- JH back Interns, SFSS, Subliminal
- click: Accelerated Diagnostics (this leaves you with double advanced Atlas and a click gained)
- click: advance and score
All the Youtube videos have a link to the appropriate decklist in the description, so it’s definitely not a secret. I already had one guy say that he knew my deck from watching the channel, lol.
Apo has the 2 point combo correct. It’s worth noting that this only requires $2 to start since you gain a dollar back from Subliminal.
There is a 3 point combo that’s important to know as well.
Requires: JH in play, 2 AD in hand, $3
- PS
- AD for Interns agenda, Interns JH, SFSS
- AD for SFSS, Subliminal
- Advance
Also! As soon as Shattered Remains is released on OCTGN, everyone in this thread needs to go test with it. It probably sucks, but the mere threat of that double advanced card trashing Plascrete + Console might make Weyland a bit better.
Oh, thanks. I watched em on Apple TV (projected to my wall) so no YouTube info
Does anyone have the Uncorrodable decklist? The netrunnerdb one isn’t working anymore and I’m really curious to see it
Edit: nevermind, netrunnerdb is back