[Jinteki RP] Red Rush!

From my minor playtesting, atman 4 wrecks ass: Ichi,eli,cortex,lotus

Here’s the Biotech version I’m going to test tonight. After brewing with @Calimsha I think his list is more competitive, but there are some neat tricks you can pull with Biotech too and I’m a sucker for new cards.

Regarding Atman, I’m happy to let Runner break my 4-strength ICE if it means I get to resolve Excalibur on them.

###[Greenhouse Rush][1] (49 cards)

  • [Jinteki Biotech: Life imagined][2]

Agenda (9)

  • 1 [Genetic Resequencing][3]
  • 2 [NAPD Contract][4]
  • 3 [Nisei MK II][5]
  • 3 [The Future Perfect][6]

Asset (2)

  • 2 [Jackson Howard][7] ••

Upgrade (4)

  • 3 [Caprice Nisei][8]
  • 1 [Crisium Grid][9] •

Operation (15)

  • 1 [Biotic Labor][10] ••••
  • 2 [Blue Level Clearance][11] ••••
  • 3 [Celebrity Gift][12]
  • 2 [Fast Track][13]
  • 3 [Hedge Fund][14]
  • 1 [Interns][15]
  • 1 [Medical Research Fundraiser][16]
  • 2 [Restructure][17]

Barrier (5)

  • 2 [Eli 1.0][18] ••
  • 3 [Himitsu-Bako][19]

Code Gate (7)

  • 1 [Chum][20]
  • 1 [Enigma][21]
  • 1 [Lotus Field][22]
  • 3 [Quandary][23]
  • 1 [Tollbooth][24] ••

Sentry (3)

  • 2 [Cortex Lock][25]
  • 1 [Susanoo-No-Mikoto][26]

ICE (4)

  • 2 [Chimera][27]
  • 2 [Excalibur][28]

Built with [http://netrunner.meteor.com/][29]
[1]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/G4deqKkMfW5X3qr9P
[2]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/jinteki-biotech-life-imagined-the-valley
[3]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/genetic-resequencing-the-valley
[4]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/napd-contract-double-time
[5]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/nisei-mk-ii-core
[6]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/the-future-perfect-honor-and-profit
[7]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/jackson-howard-opening-moves
[8]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/caprice-nisei-double-time
[9]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/crisium-grid-first-contact
[10]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/biotic-labor-core
[11]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/blue-level-clearance-fear-and-loathing
[12]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/celebrity-gift-opening-moves
[13]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/fast-track-honor-and-profit
[14]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/hedge-fund-core
[15]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/interns-mala-tempora
[16]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/medical-research-fundraiser-honor-and-profit
[17]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/restructure-second-thoughts
[18]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/eli-1-0-future-proof
[19]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/himitsu-bako-opening-moves
[20]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/chum-core
[21]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/enigma-core
[22]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/lotus-field-upstalk
[23]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/quandary-double-time
[24]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/tollbooth-core
[25]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/cortex-lock-the-valley
[26]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/susanoo-no-mikoto-honor-and-profit
[27]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/chimera-cyber-exodus
[28]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/card/excalibur-the-source
[29]: http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/G4deqKkMfW5X3qr9P

Regarding atman 4 and excalibur, did I mention i always lose psi games?

You’re probably in the wrong thread then :wink:

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So I’d imagine with that Biotech deck, you’re just choosing the 4 advancement side every game?

Yup. 4-advancements is going to be good in 100% of games which is a lot more than you can say for the other two sides.

Conceivably you could take the shuffle effect against Noise but the 4-advance is probably still better in that matchup.

What about caduceus or errand boy for RP? They require interaction, and contribute to economy. Errand boy of course having the classic parasite downside.

One advantage of Parasite-vulnerable ICE is that they might lure the runner to burn a Parasite equivalent making the scoring-server Chimera’s and Quandaries less vulnerable.

I would think that RP is the right ID for two reasons: Burns a click for when you try to close out the game with just Caprice and, more importantly, the runner has to respect the possibility that you’re playing RP Glacier.

Architect thoughts:

  1. It’s a shame that if Architect is the last ice in a server then you can’t use Caprice if you install her in that server off of Architect firing
  2. It’s really good behind Chum:
    i. You don’t have to worry about the runner blanking Chum by parasiting the ice behind it
    ii. Chum’s strength boost pushes Architect out of Mimic range, and the fact that it’s doesn’t have the Destroyer or AP subtypes means that Shaper can’t avoid the net damage by breaking with Deus X / Sharpshooter
  3. The reason that Architect is the best sentry in the game is that it’s a guaranteed to gear-check due to not being parasiteable. So I think biggest determinant of whether you should spend influence on Architect is what the rest of your sentries look like; i.e. you probably don’t need it if you are already good at gear-checking for Mimic.
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Didn’t see that coming.

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Editted to be more clear

Doesn’t Shaper Cyber Cypher Chum (and Lotus Field, Merlin) and break for 1 credit?

I tried a version of the deck out tonight and it did quite well initially but as soon as anyone was wise to the rush nature, they demolished it easily enough with no way to score out that last agenda reliably.

So far (limited testing) it seems to come down to if the runner notices the Ice is all a bit weak sauce in time.

I really like Ichi here. A bit expensive, but a severe PITA to deal with.

I’ve been thinking about Fast Track in non-FA dex for awhile. Great job, @cspieker.

I could see Ichi being kind of problematic for this deck. He either has to be the outermost piece of ice (and position-dependent ice is often sad times) or the only piece of ice on a central. If he’s the only ice then you’re very vulnerable to early game lockdowns on whatever central you put him on, and if you install him first and then put one of the many ETR ice in front of him you’ve just blanked him. He’s great once the runner has programs they care about protecting, but if they can win out of centrals without installing any breakers before then, Ichi might be a waste.

Since this is a rush deck archetype, I think you could get mileage out of Errand Boy. It has the parasite weakness but has the potential to goose your board state by drawing you a few cards and/or making a few credits to recoup the cost of rezzing it. It’s position-neutral and annoying enough that runners won’t run through it over and over like they will Ichi.

You guys need to free your minds :man_with_turban:

This is not the RP deck that makes it extra taxing to check remotes by making the mandatory central run prickly and expensive.

This deck is not going for the score by taxing. The score is binary. Keep them away from your agenda for one turn with Caprice, Excalibur, ETR ICE, and Nisei tokens.

That said, some taxing is necessary. As has been noted, you won’t be able to rush all 7 agenda points through before you lose to R&D and HQ dig if you can’t slow down the runner at all. Nisei MK II is not Astroscript. In most games, taxing will be necessary on the centrals. That is where the Ichi1.0 could come in. But since you are primarily interested in taxing R&D, rather than taxing the scoring remote by using an ICE on R&D, it is not totally necessary that Ichi1.0 be the outermost ICE.

If you can get your centrals all set up, all with prickly ICE on the outside, then that is just great and surely will help you out. However, this build is choosing a different priority; thus, the ICE selection is going to make setting up uniformly prickly centrals less likely.

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Here we go with the latest version of my build :

RP Rush

Jinteki: Replicating Perfection (Trace Amount)

Agenda (9)

Asset (6)

Upgrade (3)

Operation (14)

Barrier (5)

Code Gate (4)

Sentry (4)

Other (4)

15 influence spent (max 15)
20 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
49 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Source

Deck built on NetrunnerDB.

Cortex lock as been disappointing for me all day long against players who knew what they do so they got cut.
The same way, DBS has been too slow for what I wanted it to do => cut as well.
Even if Blue Level Clearance is really nice for giving money and digging through the deck, you can’t play a a BLC and then install/advance an agenda in a remote so it got cut for Anon Tip + Restructure. Also, using 2 clicks to get money & draw made the HQ weaker : you don’t really want to protect HQ much with this kind of deck I feel.
Not sure if Architect is the good call here but I didn’t know what to do with my inf and architect feel it was the best card in this slot. Maybe I should swap the 2nd architect for a second Ichi.

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List of programs that “break” Cortex Lock for free:
Bishop, Bug, Faerie, Inti, LLDS Energy Regulator, Origami (without Ekomind!), Paricia, Savoir Faire, Self-Modifying Code.

GLC’s let you install and advance, so that is a possibility, but I like the Anon Tip idea.

One thought about agenda composition, a Philotic allows anon tip -> fast track -> install Philotic (though this same play with Chronos could be really powerful in the right matchup).

Anon Tip as always been a MVP when I tried out rush deck in 2013 early 2014 so there’s no reason for it to not be good here, especially since the RP agenda composition (9 agendas) make the deck a little bit more resilient to heavy R&D dig, compared to TWIY* rush or Supermodernism. I’ve been on and off about playing philotic + 2 TFP or CP with 2 NAPD. Both are valids I think .

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I want to try Anonymous Tip just because of how happy I will be the first time I pull off click 1 Anonymous Tip click 2-3 Celebrity Gift.