@mediohxcore: here is where I’ve currently landed on the Medium Mail build: Valencia - Medium Mail · NetrunnerDB
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card pool: Through Order & Chaos
event: Store Championship
players: 22
location/store: Tabletop Shop
city: Newington, Connecticut
country: USA
date: February 28, 2015
winner: Cal Neuvost
“Drugs” - Newington, Conn., Store Championship (45 cards)
MaxX: Maximum Punk Rock
– Event (33 cards)
3 Account Siphon ****
3 Day Job
3 Dirty Laundry
3 Déjà Vu
3 Forked
3 I’ve Had Worse
3 Knifed
1 Levy AR Lab Access ***
2 Retrieval Run
3 Spooned
3 Sure Gamble
3 Wanton Destruction
– Program (9 cards)
2 D4v1d
3 Eater
2 Mimic
2 Parasite
– Resource (3 cards)
3 Same Old Thing
I was glad to do well with Eater MaxX without Keyhole!
“Mooncast” - Newington, Conn., Store Championship (49 cards)
Near-Earth Hub: Broadcast Center
– Agenda (11 cards)
3 AstroScript Pilot Program
2 Breaking News
3 NAPD Contract
3 Project Beale
– Asset (8 cards)
3 Jackson Howard
3 PAD Campaign
2 Snare! **
– ICE (15 cards)
3 Data Raven
1 Eli 1.0 *
1 Enigma
3 Pop-up Window
2 Quandary
1 Tollbooth
1 Troll
1 Wall of Static
2 Wraparound
– Operation (12 cards)
3 Hedge Fund
3 Scorched Earth ****
3 SEA Source
3 Sweeps Week
– Upgrade (3 cards)
3 SanSan City Grid
This was a great event! Thanks to Gabe for putting us up. Thanks to Twitch and Mungo for the rides and company. Thanks to El-ad and Zeromus for being great traveling buddies. Thanks to the great competitors, including Ally, Danny, Carl, Kenny, and Peter, who was repping Rhode Island, and all the rest!
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For what it’s worth, rounding out the top 4 in Card Kingdom we had Eater MaxX / Blue Sun, Eater MaxX / RP, and Leela / RP. But there were definitely some interesting brews running around. A couple of the players I talked to spoke disparagingly of ‘netdecking’. My very brief and limited experience in Seattle seems like many players really like to brew with janky cards and make it all work. (Though I wouldn’t consider Keyhole Siphon MaxX the avant-garde of deck design either.)
I have a lot of respect for anyone that builds their own decks, but I think there is a point where you have to call jank what it is and recognize that there isn’t a great reason to play it when the surprise value doesn’t outweigh the jankiness. There shouldn’t be any stigma against netdecking, especially when the card pool is small enough that two good players/builders can brew almost exactly the same deck as one another without conferring.
Most of the time, when I see a janky deck win, I think “oh, so a good player decided to dick around and their skill carried them to the top DESPITE the jank”. It’s rare to see a novel deck that actually looks like it can be great on paper. The Tennin never advance deck looks like one of these decks to me. Coherent/synergistic, full of strong cards, and good in the metagame. Au revior CT, on the other hand, doesn’t have a lot of justification outside of the novelty/fun value.
Anti-netdecking culture puts newer players at a severe disadvantage in tournaments and actually keeps people from learning to become better. I think that the Philly meta does a better job than any other at taking new/intermediate players and making them truly top-tier, and it’s largely because we have a culture of deck-sharing and strong competition even at our random game nights. People aren’t ALWAYS netdecking, but I find that new/intermediate players take their skill to the next level by copying decks and only then start building on their own, at which point they’re actually competent enough to construct something that isn’t just a waste of everyone’s time.
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TBH, I think it’s more justifiable in a meta thats been drifting towards glacier of various types.
more justifiable doesn’t cut it when it still isn’t justifiable.
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I don’t even understand the point of Au Revoir—Jacking Out is pretty rare, right? Why would you even waste deck slots on something like this? 
edit: I expected Au Revoir to pay the runner for unsuccessful runs, which seems useful; sort of a reverse Desperado. As it is you have to have 2 of them out to even match a Sec. Testing or a single MO click ;). Plus there are a ton of things that synergize with successful runs. Kati is a much better way to click for 3.
double edit: what medio said 
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You can click for $3 with all of them out, but if you were playing better cards/less MU, basically every other econ engine will be better over the course of almost every game. Every deck can play 3 Kati Jones, and that alone is way better if you replace whatever you used for the superfluous memory with some more burst econ.
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When I read the list, the only conclusion I came to is that the person playing the deck (and their opponents) didn’t understand that you don’t jack out at the end of a successful run. Seems highly unlikely, but it is the only way I could justify it in my mind.
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You don’t even jack out at the end of an unsuccessful run, unless I’m reading this flowchart wrong. Like… if you get hit with an ETR, you get $0.
yall the point is that snitch lets you jack out as long as there’s a server without an outermost rezzed ice on it.
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Right, it’s a four card combo to get 3c per click.
Seems solid to me.
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In a meta filled with horizontal decks, I could see it… if you refuse to play Criminal and run SecTest / Bank Job.
Edit: Because presumably against Glacier decks, you’ll need to make successful runs at some point in order to access cards, which turns off your engine. I guess you could just never run HQ or Archives without jacking out for money, so then they could only rez with something like EBC.
I like my four card combos to pay me 3c without a click, thankee kindly ;).
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The deck is jank, but they were playing the proper rules. With either Snitch, or an unprotected server you can run 4 times on your turn and get up to $12.
If there was a reliable way to give the Corp bad pub, this would be better as you could use the BP on the Personal Workshop as well as get your Au Revoir money.
I don’t think the comparison to Kati/Sec Testing is fair because those are limited to once per turn. The real question is, does it makes sense to spend 6 influence on a conditional super-Opus when you can just play Opus in faction?
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Stop it…
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I once played against au revoir snitch CT on octgn, playing blue sun bootcamp glacier. A deck whose sole purpose is to make buckets of money very slowly is bootcamp glacier’s natural enemy, and yet I still won (thanks to double ash in the scoring remote). I spent like three turns just to bootcamp all my outermost ice on each server, forgot until after I trashed my bootcamp that I also needed an ice on archives to lock her out, and won anyway, despite her 50 or so credits at the end.
I played a deck that should be the best possible matchup for au revoir, I wasted three turns on a mistake, and still au revoir was not able to win. Yeah. Not impressed.
I don’t mean to be derisive to jank-loving, but – for now perhaps the jank-lovers will celebrate the discovery that something like this “is tier 1” just because it got lucky in a strong player’s hands one time, but it will all shake out come regionals.
In the meantime let me emphasize:
Anyone who’s against netdecking because they think the primary skill of this game is in deckbuilding, and that there’s nothing to learn from studying why the “spike” decks are good, could not be more wrong. And anyone who discourages new players from playing matchups between decks they had no hand in creating is doing the community a great disservice.
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Au has a much smaller startup compared to Opus, and comes out just as fast in a CT deck.
That is true neither in terms of credits nor in terms of other intangibles like card slots or smc pressure. 3 au + 1 snitch is 5c, just like opus. It’s more if you assume you’ll use SMC more than once on it. And it’s also 4 card slots in your deck (opus takes 1-3 depending if you like duplicates), 4 memory (opus takes 2). And 8 influence to opus’s 0. AND you have to burn like half of your tutoring power (smcs/clone chips) so you have a harder time getting the rest of your rig set up.
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