Yeah, Engine was in my last build. Have been a fan for some time.
special offer is likely yellowâs best anti-siphon card as it is.
Sponsorship in Spagâs list has so many viable targets for any situation theyâre well worth it. Special offer puts it over the top in providing a target that its always relevant.
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If you donât want/need to recycle CVS, SO, or any ICE for that matter, is a juicy target.
all looks dece though 2 biotic 2 dbs 2 cvs 2 fast track are pretty much a must for me imo. Of course some could argue more dbs means less need for fast track (if not cvs) but fast track is ridiculous. Should have been pointed
I am not sure about that. If you are talking about criminals, maybe. But right now, I believe, we are facing siphons mostly in anarchâs builds, who will easily break it with eater or faust. That is actually my main concern about SO over pop-ups. I dunno, maybe only my meta is flooded with AI anarch breakers.
Other point I canât fully agree with @spags is about fast money justification of SO. While itâs, of course, true, pop-ups povide taxing the runner. Even only two runs through a pop-up (or 1 run and a parasite) will essentially create the same credit swing, as SO.
But I will give it a try, maybe itâs that I just canât give up on my favorite piece of ICE in the game so far (both in gameplay and art/flavor point of view)âŚ
Outside of Spark, Special Offer is more an economy card disguised as ice than it is ice. It bluffs well.
Indeed.
I donât think thereâs a right or wrong answer here. Iâm just saying that if you havenât tried SO, youâre doing yourself a disservice.
(also, if youâre having AI issues, throw in some Swordsman, ya Drungus!)
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If you dont like a one cost ice thatâs taxing 2 cards go product placement I guess.
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yeah iâve been testing Special Offer in lieu of Hedge Fund in a few of my NBN decks that run really light on ICE. so far iâve liked it, but i may just replace the Pop-ups haha
Yeah, in this Faust meta Swordsman does some serious work.
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Haha was thinking the same thing.
Hey lets nerf FastroâŚand while weâre at it, lets nerf the other #winning decks
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Seems we went overboard with the nerfing⌠
A nerf is only a nerf if it is a relative nerf, the absolute nerf is of no consequence. If everything that was good(ish) against what was nerfed gets nerfed more, the nerfee becomes the nerfer.
So what is the opinion on 2 BN vs. BN+15min?
As mentioned BN can give you a lot of opportunities to wreck the runners econ/board, while 15min is obviously strong, more self defence on agenda.
Poor yellow, they just keep printing them too many good card, how is a director of a division to choose from all that power
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it depends on my deck tbh. if iâm running a cheeky 1x Closed Accounts or something, definitely 2x Breaking News
overall, i prefer 1 of each though. 15 Minutes is just so good.
iâm mostly running the Haarp kill deck now though, so iâm running all 4 anyway 
Their target was probably Butchershop, not FA. It was too easy to have both a kill option and a FA option. That is not good for the meta.
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Agreed. I think the idea was to stop every NBN deck also being a fast advance deck along with whatever else it was doing, not to just hammer FA.
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Ah I see, clearly NEHFABS is not in need of nerfin, quite the opposite, as it seems 
Ah, the good old post mwl diversity: nbn & anarch all day longâŚ
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Based on Damonâs discussion of the NAPDMWL on The Winning Agenda, I donât think he was specifically targetting archetypes at all. The only time I recall he ever mentioned one archetype being dominant it was PPVP, and he specifically said he didnât nerf the card just because of the dominant archetype.
The intent seemed to be nerfing -cards-, not archetypes. MWL hosing butcher shop harder than fastro is just incidental.
Thought exercise, if you did no targetting at all and gave every ID in the game 5 less influence, butchershop would still get hit way harder than Fastro. Itâs always going to be easier to replace Architect with Gutenberg than it is to replace Scorched Earth with Invasion of Privacy.
He probably should have thought about the impact on each existing archetype just a smidge more since NEHFA is nuts after MWL, but when heâs testing post rotation jacksonless new cards meta all the time I understand the oversight. And I understand it sucks to find another card you can add to the list to hose Fastro. Sweeps makes casual players switching to tournaments feel like they are punished just for playing their Hedge Fund. Beale takes away one of few incentives to play yellow glacier and makes building an agenda suite frustrating, and can be mitigated by Fast Track anyway. Adding a dot to Wraparound makes it more dangerous to say Faust doesnât need to be on the list and Faust is A OK. Wraparound would actually be pretty strongly in line with the philosophy since it gets splashed in Jinteki glacier sometimes and is always 3x in faction, but it probably wasnât even considered for targetting because itâs an âanswerâ card. But if an answer card is so so heavily played, maybe that means there needs to be a look at what itâs answering (to be fair, Parasite is part of that, and Parasite did make the list)
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I think that NEHâs power is being blown a little out of proportion at this point. If NEH FA is super dominant coming right off the MWL list, I suspect weâll see a rise in fast set up Andy or Leela decks with lots of Leg Works. Clot isnât the only way to fight FA. If you build the deck for it, Crim is actually pretty good at beating NEH and they only took a small hit from the MWL while NEH lost a lot of itâs best ICE in that match up as well as NAPD contract.
That isnât to say that I think NEH isnât one of the top competitors, just that I think it will balance out over the next couple weeks.
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I donât know. Crim was in a rough place, and the sorts of corps they struggled with were exactly the ones left relatively untouched by MWL. And even without Caprice, Foodcoats was a terrible matchup for many Crim decks. Until that goes away, Crim is going to be always hesitantly run.
This is true, but if they are preying on an overwhelming presence of Yellow decks, then they can afford to take a couple losses from the Glacier decks that will be preyed upon in turn by Noise and other inevitability decks.
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