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#404

I imagine it has low influence, seeing as how it serves a very niche purpose and in ‘traditional’ matches it only can slow you down if you opt to host. I imagine it can be powerful in Iain only if it sits at 1 inf, otherwise my eyes turned directly to Kraken :sunglasses:

@hypomodern It is totally unconfirmed, true, but it was in the banter between Snowjax and the unknown spoiler. Judging by the text given, even if it allows you to steal avoiding additional costs, TFP is not an additional cost.

So you’ll just end up in your backroom trying to Psi out this .agenda file.

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#405

Someone figure out how I can power shutdown my whole deck and then win in 3 turns before the runner can steal 3 agendas for me.

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#406

Have 2 Agendas in hand that are 3/2s. Power shutdown the entire deck. Jackson to Accellerated diagnostics a Shipment from Mirrormorph, (to install both 3/2s and another Jackson), an Interns and an Interns, to put 2 more Agendas on the field.

Use the Jackson to stuff 3 non-trashables on R&D to buy you time.

Now you’ve got two guarenteed scores of 2-pointers, which means you win if you were 3-4 points to 2 runner points at the time of firing…

#407

It makes me sad how Imp makes this ID largely irrelevant.

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#408

Shipment from Mirrormorph a Virus Suite down. Shutdown combos require like 8 credits so who gives a damn it takes up a slot.

#409

It was already wonky and then you went and added shipment from mirrormorph and virus suite

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#410

That card would make the potential new NBN ID quite useless.

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#411

That would be Imp’s second casualty, as it already killed Industrial Genomics.

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#412

Those cards coupled with that ID definitely seem fun, and I still look forward to trying them out. New cards are always exciting, and I hope this suite is indicative of more off-the-wall breakers. All I’m ever arguing is that I want more ANR cards that reward the niche players. There are tons of fun potential decks in ANR, but consistently losing because your niche cards just aren’t quite good enough isn’t fun, IMO.

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#413

Yeah, it would be silly if you could have a turn of “install two Hollywood Renovation, advance one of them, score both due to cascading triggers. P.S. also advance all your ice and any other cards to infinity just in case 6 points isn’t enough”

Looking forward to strong faceup agendas - I love building a big remote and daring the runner to try and get in.

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#414

Someone on Reddit is saying that a “source” of theirs says that NEXT Gold is going to look like this:

NEXT Gold
Sentry, 4 strength, 7 rez, unknown influence
-> Trash X programs
-> Deal X brain damage
X is the number of rezzed NEXT ice

Obviously, as with all these new spoilers, take with massive doses of salt.

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#415

/tg/ is saying it is net damage not brain as originally spoiled.

#416

I guess you’re going for the money shot with Corporate Troubleshooter when you play this?

As a regular, taxing ICE it’s cost-inefficient against Mimic+Datasucker, against Atman 4, against Switchblade, against Eater, or against Parasite+Datasucker spam.

Any idea if it’s AP and/or Destroyer so it can also lose to Deus X and Sharpshooter?

#417

That’d be a reasonable NEXT Gold.

It’s a pain to facepant into early-mid, with 2 or 3 other NEXT up. But it’s not any better once a breaker suite shows up that can handle it. 4 STR means it’s the only facecheck Ice currently besides Archer and Grim that screws you hard with a Mimic.

They can’t continue making NEXT Ice that’s cheap and scales in ETR power like Bronze and Silver, so stuff like this is fine. It’s hard to rez in large quantitiies, and doesn’t scale in stopping power.

For fairness, it’s almost certainly AP Destroyer.

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#418

1x Levy has been a staple in Prepaid Kate since the beginning.

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#419

No doubt. I don’t mean to toot my horn here, but I won an SC last year with TWO Levy in a CT Siphon spammer, and then was the first person here to introduce the idea of PPVP in Kate. Note the Levy, which, IIRC, was scoffed at initially, but found to be completely necessary.

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#420

Good luck installing two Astros vs Leela.

#421

Correct.

Seems crazy that that was less than a year ago, it feels like a lot longer. But I guess I got married, changed jobs, and tried about fifty thousand different decks in that time… and yet I just made almost the exact same error at last Saturday’s SC (taking the bait when I’m in control of the game), and it once again left me out of the cut by one win.

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#422

I assumed this had to be the case, but @bayushi_david made it sound as if Levy wasn’t played at all until this most recent iteration of PP Kate. I wasn’t around for original PP Kate and didn’t want to make a faux pas so I just went with using the Blitz version as my example.

#423

The first prepaid kate deck that I know was run at the end of spin by a friend of mine, before luckyfind came out. It didn’t work nearly well enough because it didn’t have its economic legs yet; but even that one had Levy AR; A few months later (and a few days before Lysander posted that thread), @nordrunner came to a group of us with a CT variant of voicepad, I believe it predated legwork; but here’s the list he posted at the time:

Chaos Theory: Wünderkind (Cyber Exodus)

Event (23)
3x The Maker’s Eye (Core Set)
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)
3x Test Run (Cyber Exodus)
3x Quality Time (Humanity’s Shadow)
3x Scavenge (Creation and Control)
2x Levy AR Lab Access (Creation and Control)
3x Dirty Laundry (Creation and Control)
3x Lucky Find (Double Time) ••••• •

Hardware (6)
1x Desperado (Core Set) •••
2x Plascrete Carapace (What Lies Ahead)
3x Prepaid VoicePAD (Second Thoughts)

Resource (6)
3x Professional Contacts (Creation and Control)
2x Same Old Thing (Creation and Control)
1x John Masanori (Opening Moves)

Icebreaker (5)
1x Corroder (Core Set) ••
1x Femme Fatale (Core Set) •
1x Deus X (A Study in Static)
1x Torch (Mala Tempora)
1x Garrote (True Colors) •••

Pretty damn close, huh? Note, this was prior to his imp build at regionals. I got the e-mail that contained this beauty on 4/13. @spags & the community refined from there, but near as I can tell this was the beginning and Levy has always been there.

While we’re reminiscing and all.